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posted December 16, 2009 05:10 PM
New Horsepower King BMW1000rr
Just reading motorcycledaily article on testing done by Akrapovic on 1000rr and its running 185 rwhp. Not bad if that's correct for first time litre bike from beemer.
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/16december09_bmw_s1000r_dyno.htm
  
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posted December 16, 2009 05:25 PM
I wasn't going to say anything just because...but several have reported crazy HP numbers on the BMW, and BMW has asked some to tone it down
and if you really want to see more dyno pulls on the new beemer.... check out mcn.com
or just check out MCN's 2010 litre bike shootout 
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posted December 16, 2009 05:51 PM
I'm still waiting to see same day/same dyno tests. I'd also like to see some at some local shops before I believe this bike makes 20+ more hp at the wheel than some of the competition.
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posted December 16, 2009 06:50 PM
I think by what I've been told you will start believing when the bike hits the track.
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posted December 16, 2009 06:51 PM
Man , I hope I see one of them bad boys at Pais Drag Strip soon! LOL!!!!!!!!
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posted December 16, 2009 06:51 PM
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I'm still waiting to see same day/same dyno tests. I'd also like to see some at some local shops before I believe this bike makes 20+ more hp at the wheel than some of the competition.
Waiting is right.
the R1 for '09 was hyped. I said on this forum and others I wanted one but "the jury is still out". Then come to find out the USA model '09 R1 is WAY under the european model. People on the R1 forum are spending a fortune on YEC race ECU's, ECU "reflashes", european harnesses, etc.
And folks like Bikeland test the new R1 bike and write such like "all this new technology, where's the performance?"
Media hype of new models can be total "hype!"
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posted December 16, 2009 09:44 PM
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posted December 16, 2009 09:46 PM
Akrapovic Stock Dyno Results (2009 or 2010 models)
BMW S1000RR 185.5 @ 13,120
Apria RSV4 165 @ 12,400
Ducati 1198S 157.4 @ 9,800
Honda CBR1000RR 170.6 @ 12,290
Yamaha YZF-R1 161.6 @ 12,430
Kawasaki ZX-10R 163.1 @ 12,150
Suzuki GSX-R 1000 168.1 @ 11,900
Kawasaki ZX-14 174 @ 9,400
Suzuki Hayabusa 179.5 @ 9,300
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posted December 16, 2009 10:07 PM
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posted December 16, 2009 11:53 PM
Power to weight ratio to price the BMW1000 RR will be a force to be recond with from other competitors
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posted December 17, 2009 12:09 AM
Too bad the bike is not symmetrical. After all the oohs and ahhhs I just can't get over the looks of the thing.
Both headlights don't match and even both sides of the bike don't match.
Reminds me of little Whitey in adam sandlers 8 Crazy nights with his adult sized 11 left foot and childrens sized 9 right foot ! Lol wtf! 
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posted December 17, 2009 12:16 AM
hp and tq curves don't jive.
at 11500 bmw, kaw, suz all have about same tq, but bmw hp is +20??????
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posted December 17, 2009 12:23 AM
Time will tell I think The 1000RR will live up to the hype they showed good power in the WSB this year for a new runner
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posted December 17, 2009 05:06 AM
depending on how many bugs the first models have I am thinking of buying one. I don't care if its the fastest as long as it doesn't get left in the dust by the big 4. for me I like the looks of it and like the idea of riding something you wont see a million of. not right away any way
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posted December 17, 2009 05:37 AM
The 1/4 mile mph is indicative of more peak hp...let's see what these bikes do when they hit the streets (and tracks). I don't expect to see many of them at the dragstrips, though. 
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posted December 17, 2009 05:43 AM
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i remember when the k1200s came out and was gonna cook Japanese..but they just couldn't get the frying pan hot enough..now they saying they got a deep fryer ..them germans didn't learn anything from WW1 either they had to have seconds at WW2
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posted December 17, 2009 06:57 AM
Personally I hope it does hold up. It would be nice to see something different busting performance asses. Kind of like the reviews of the 14 before/when it first came out....
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posted December 17, 2009 07:23 AM
*BMW and Honda figures recorded in rainy conditions - BMW tested in "slick" mode
WTF, 1/4 mile, braking and top speed testing in the rain???!?
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posted December 17, 2009 07:25 AM
the fix is in dry and cold early hot and moist later LOL
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posted December 17, 2009 08:00 AM
Yeah my take is we wait and see on this bike, like I said about the heavily 2009 R1 "the jury is still out on this one" and sure enough America got a way toned down version of it than europe.
And now folks are changing to Race YEC UCU's and losing some street features, or installing european harnesses and reflashing ECU's, its a friggin mess and the '09 R1 Yamaha is a fail in my eyes unless one doean't mind a watered down version.
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posted December 17, 2009 08:44 AM
no one else thinks there is a bust between the hp and tq curves?
looking at the tq curves; bmw, suz, kaw hp all should be displaying the same hp at 11500rpm... bmw is up 20hp at 11500???? WTF????
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posted December 17, 2009 08:53 AM
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no one else thinks there is a bust between the hp and tq curves?
looking at the tq curves; bmw, suz, kaw hp all should be displaying the same hp at 11500rpm... bmw is up 20hp at 11500???? WTF????
You're right, Karl...makes no sense...
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posted December 17, 2009 09:58 AM
Yes you are right Karl it just don't jive....With that much Horsepower the performance numbers should be off tha charts and not marginal as they are from these posted charts....They are touting the F1 technology that went into this bike and I think its all HYPE and BMW has just figured out that they needed to pay the magazine people to sway the favor in their way for marketing and sales purposes....Get everyone all hyped up about it and sales will follow. This is just another case of a major manufacturer putting out a newly featured motorcycle and paying off the Mags !!!! Just my .2cents
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posted December 17, 2009 09:59 AM
If the torque and rpm are the same, the hp should be equal at that rpm. Something is definitely odd about the charts.
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posted December 17, 2009 11:04 AM
the torque curve is completly flat between 8k and 10k with very little drop after that which i think is very impressive. the r1 and honda have steep drops after 8k-9k and and the others are peaky as hell. with that much linear torque combined with variable intake tract and exhaust power valve or whatever else they cooked up and my experience with german vehicles i am not quite as skeptical as you guys
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