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posted November 10, 2009 12:06 AM
 Edited By: BobC on 10 Nov 2009 08:19
Right, this is the most overcooked subject on the site. Every other day for over three years now there's been a "how to" post, a "Wow" post or a "What screwdriver" post.
I don't think there's ever been a "removing the flys ruined my bike" post. Tells you something, doesn't it.
Riding with the flys in is like having your mother-in-law on the pillion. "I'm not giving you full power son, it's only doing 3,000rpm"
FFS we are all adults here, I think we can be given control of the throttle and yes, I much prefer a linear power curve to one with a huge hole in it. If I wanted gutless I'd have bought a smaller bike.
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posted November 10, 2009 06:15 AM
Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 10 Nov 2009 14:21
flyboy you are one seriously twisted individual.
Now where's part 2?!?! 
Edit: oh yeah, pull those flies Dave. It will give you a bit more torque right off idle when taking off, but its easily controlled- akin to a very torquey modded V8 automatic sports car with its touchy throttle off a stop. After a few miles you will have completely adapted, no problems. Also, every day riding: wouldnt have it any other way, in traffic or around town I no longer have to stay down 2 gears just to be close enough to my power band that I can get out of trouble. The stock 14 sucks balls for low rpm throttle wacks like that, flyboys barely running Vespa has more get-up-and-go down low! Got easily a thousand plus miles of rain riding: another couple thousand of riding to work in near or sub freezing temps, too: all with no problems and no regrets.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted November 10, 2009 10:12 AM
A bit more off idle is an understatement! Hell you can start off in 3rd gear if you want!
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posted November 10, 2009 04:17 PM
quote:
flyboy you are one seriously twisted individual.
Now where's part 2?!?!
Edit: oh yeah, pull those flies Dave. It will give you a bit more torque right off idle when taking off, but its easily controlled- akin to a very torquey modded V8 automatic sports car with its touchy throttle off a stop. After a few miles you will have completely adapted, no problems. Also, every day riding: wouldnt have it any other way, in traffic or around town I no longer have to stay down 2 gears just to be close enough to my power band that I can get out of trouble. The stock 14 sucks balls for low rpm throttle wacks like that, flyboys barely running Vespa has more get-up-and-go down low! Got easily a thousand plus miles of rain riding: another couple thousand of riding to work in near or sub freezing temps, too: all with no problems and no regrets.
I agree that the 06-07's were complete and utter pigs under 6000rpm stock.......the weakest sport bike I ever rode down low. Truly pathetic. Kawasaki REALLY dropped the ball on the early models down low. Pulling the flies just make it run like a 1400cc bike should.... predictable, smooth, controllable power all the way up the rev range, no more of that big, sudden hit of power out of nowhere at 6 grand.
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posted November 10, 2009 05:21 PM
Thanks Lyle, and thanks guys, message received!!! WILL DO IT!!! Hopefully in about a month or so. Let me have my Baby back first
FlyBoy....oh MAN! That was a really twisted and sad story, can't wait to read part 2 
Hugs all,
David
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posted November 10, 2009 06:45 PM
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Thanks Lyle, and thanks guys, message received!!! WILL DO IT!!! Hopefully in about a month or so. Let me have my Baby back first
FlyBoy....oh MAN! That was a really twisted and sad story, can't wait to read part 2
Hugs all,
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On second thought don't do it man ... Might be too much fun for you and if you were to have a heartattack I couldn't live with myself ...
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posted November 10, 2009 08:11 PM
And now how about a thread about a full exhaust system verses stock. I used to think my stock exhaust was okay until I got a full , now I want to piss on my old pipes. On and on.
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posted November 10, 2009 08:46 PM
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And now how about a thread about a full exhaust system verses stock. I used to think my stock exhaust was okay until I got a full , now I want to piss on my old pipes. On and on.
I think that topic woud lead to people getting banned for me this site 
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posted November 10, 2009 09:05 PM
yes, the stock pipes are almost as bad as the flies, a perfect companaion to the additional 20 ft lbs , down low, is the additional 20 HP up top!
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posted November 10, 2009 10:07 PM
Not to mention the weight of the stock exhaust
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posted November 10, 2009 10:17 PM
06 & 07 zx14 Stock exhaust is the wost ever big oversize baffle cans with uncoated header pipes that rusted right away.
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posted November 11, 2009 05:40 PM
Yep, that's the next step for my Baby. Next year (once I have some money available), full exhaust for her Right Lyle?
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posted November 11, 2009 05:46 PM
Here's to no flies! 
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posted November 11, 2009 05:49 PM
part 2?..... :rofl
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posted November 11, 2009 06:26 PM
My bike is gone to get the valves checked, I asked the mechanic to pull the flies while he was doing the valves. I cannot wait to get her back, I had the TRE-008 and it worked really well, but I cant wait to feel the full effect of having those pesky flys removed. ITS GONNA BE SWEET.PULL YOUR FLIES....
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posted November 11, 2009 07:49 PM
Newf14 that's Awesome ! I doudt you'll want 'em back in
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posted November 12, 2009 01:10 AM
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My bike is gone to get the valves checked, I asked the mechanic to pull the flies while he was doing the valves. I cannot wait to get her back, I had the TRE-008 and it worked really well, but I cant wait to feel the full effect of having those pesky flys removed. ITS GONNA BE SWEET.PULL YOUR FLIES....
Newf14
The flies out will give you about twice the power down low as the tre-008, and the power will start from just above idle........big fun  When I pulled my flies, I destroyed my rear tire from all the rolling throttle only burnouts, which will be just a twist of the wrist away, no downshifting or clutch action required. I also ran Ivans map tho too, that map just plain worked.
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posted November 19, 2009 12:42 PM
I put in my no secondaries map from Brocks today and took her for a spin. It was a total different bike no bogging what so ever in any gear just get up and go. I am totally impressed with removing them just wish now I didnt wait till 34000km to do it.
If I may make a suggestion if he isnt shur about removing the flies try the TRE-008 I liked that but I love the flies being removed more.
The bike was a monster before now she is a Demon!!!
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posted November 19, 2009 01:29 PM
Once you go fly theres no going back
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posted November 19, 2009 01:44 PM
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The bike was a monster before now she is a Demon!!!
Newf14
Sweet! I knew you'd say that ! And I'm sure everyone else here agrees!
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posted November 19, 2009 04:29 PM
Pulled my flies out 3 days after I bought it!! Got the PC a couple days later!!
DO IT, don't hesitate!!!
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posted November 19, 2009 05:05 PM
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Pulled my flies out 3 days after I bought it!! Got the PC a couple days later!!
DO IT, don't hesitate!!!
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posted November 20, 2009 12:13 PM
Dave- pull the flies and yes, Full exhaust!
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posted November 24, 2009 11:57 AM
I have an 06 and was so disappointed with the low end power especially since my previous bike was a busa wit all that low end. I couldn't believe that Kawi was promoting this wannabe missile wit no balls down bottom. When I pulled the flyes and did my other bolt on mods, full muzzy pc3 flyes out tre with BMC race filter did wonders 2 wake the beast up. All bolt on mods and now its the bike I always wanted. Gotta admit under 5k rpm stock it was a complete dog.
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posted November 24, 2009 03:23 PM
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I have an 06 and was so disappointed with the low end power especially since my previous bike was a busa wit all that low end.
I couldn't believe that Kawi was promoting this wannabe missile wit no balls down bottom.
When I pulled the flyes and did my other bolt on mods, full muzzy pc3 flyes out tre with BMC race filter did wonders 2 wake the beast up.
All bolt on mods and now its the bike I always wanted. Gotta admit under 5k rpm stock it was a complete dog.
The 14 with no flies always aims to please ! 
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