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posted September 19, 2009 08:17 PM
I'm just waiting for Sticks to tell us how there were so much bugs
and flies (multitude of flying insects) in this sub 40 F weather... 
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Bently
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posted September 19, 2009 09:41 PM
Well there are no Bugs in Iowa in sub 40 degree weather.
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Sticks_n_Stones
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posted September 20, 2009 05:59 AM
Never said the 14 was light fellas! Just that its not near as heavy as you pantsies make it out to be! As far as bugs: It's Washington State fellas, the average spring and fall temp is high 30's to low 40's: bugs dont stop flying until after its been below freezing for multiple days- then they come back out if it gets above about 40 deg F again. Not talking bugs like you hill billies down south have: it gets too cold up here so bugs n bees are kept to a minimum.
I had a race license when I turned 17- and used it for 2 years until I joined the Navy. Was a good rider with (IMO) great instincts on a crappy budget. Never got back into the track thing since, but never stopped learning and pushing my skill level on the back country and mountain roads.
The riding group behind me in the video: 2 MSF instructors, both of whom raced in Japan in the 250cc 2 stroke classes when stationed there (Navy Submariners), and another sub guy who is an instructor for ?Adrenaline Freaks? the local track school. The track school instructor was the only one to stay in sight of my mirrors through all the roads we went on- though he had to keep catching up in the straights on his Apprillia. That being said: If I was on my '02 TL1000R it would have been much much worse- both corners and I wouldnt have been so nice in the straights. You CAN ride the 14 nearly as fast as a good 1000 if you are a big guy! Just like a BMW M5 or Mercedes C63 AMG can hang with or beat most Porsches on a race track- might not be pretty, but its a fact.
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posted September 20, 2009 03:44 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but being in the mid 400's, isn't the ZX14 pretty light anyway? Just a few short years ago that was a VERY good weight for a track bike anyway. I love the way my 14 handles in the twisties and the flat out power in the straights is something I could NEVER give up.
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masszx14
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posted September 20, 2009 04:20 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but being in the mid 400's, isn't the ZX14 pretty light anyway? Just a few short years ago that was a VERY good weight for a track bike anyway. I love the way my 14 handles in the twisties and the flat out power in the straights is something I could NEVER give up.
Stock the zx14 is in the mid 500's lbs. - around 555 lbs. for the 06-07 and
add another 8-9 lbs. for the 08-09 model with all fluids, full tank and battery.
Put $10K in aftermarket parts and strip it down completely and you'll shed
up to 100 lbs. and it will still be over 50 lbs. heavier than the 04-05 zx10 with
a full ti exhaust and the usual bolt-ons.
Sticks, I watched your video again and even you will have to admit that are a few spots
that you're not pushing hard at all. I don't see a reason why you couldn't have been pased if
the bikes in persuit really wanted to.
Not sure if you've riden the 1098 but I can assure you it's a monster on the street with
all that torque and it has amazingly sharp steering. Same for the 999, another awesome
cornering bike with more than enough power.
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posted September 20, 2009 04:57 PM
As for the reason on the insurance rates being cheaper on the 14, my agent at State Farm informed me that the ZX14 was considered a "Sport Touring" bike when it was first released in the spring of 2006. He also informed me that there was a good chance that it may be reclassified as a "Sport" bike in time, but as far as I'm aware, that has yet to happen.
The 14 is an absolute joy to ride... no matter what your riding style is.
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Bently
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posted September 21, 2009 05:18 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but being in the mid 400's, isn't the ZX14 pretty light anyway? Just a few short years ago that was a VERY good weight for a track bike anyway. I love the way my 14 handles in the twisties and the flat out power in the straights is something I could NEVER give up.
I wish the 14 was in the mid 400's it would really fly in the 1/4 then.
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posted September 21, 2009 07:28 AM
 Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 21 Sep 2009 15:48
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Stock the zx14 is in the mid 500's lbs. - around 555 lbs. for the 06-07 and
add another 8-9 lbs. for the 08-09 model with all fluids, full tank and battery.
Put $10K in aftermarket parts and strip it down completely and you'll shed
up to 100 lbs. and it will still be over 50 lbs. heavier than the 04-05 zx10 with
a full ti exhaust and the usual bolt-ons.
Sticks, I watched your video again and even you will have to admit that are a few spots
that you're not pushing hard at all. I don't see a reason why you couldn't have been pased if
the bikes in persuit really wanted to.
Not sure if you've riden the 1098 but I can assure you it's a monster on the street with
all that torque and it has amazingly sharp steering. Same for the 999, another awesome
cornering bike with more than enough power.
Using a 2x4 and a bathroom scale (2x4 keeps the other tire level with scale tire) I got a combined weight of 504lbs on a near empty gas tank. That was 6+months ago and that scale broke. I'll reweigh it with my new scale that matches my calibrated scale at my work to verify those numbers (the other scale never was checked for accuracy). I have the 4 into 1 Muzzy with the rear air splitter "pie" fairing removed, a fender eliminator, no tool kit, and thats it.
The 999, 1098, any 08 or newer 1000, etc. should be able to take me. Not saying the 14 has ANY advantage in handling at normal speeds (IT IS better at 120mph or faster cornering, though: hands down nothing can match it. Next best high speed handling bike is the new Busa). Just that going from the "worst" handling of that group (ZX14) to the best handling (1198 or new Honda Fireblade depending on who you ask) the margin between the Bikes capabilities and the Riders capabilities still favors the Rider. Barring me taking it to the track and going up against the best the state has to offer, I will continue to hang with the best and beat the rest on canyon rides.
The video: I slowed down to let guys catch up (some of the guys shouldnt have been in the fast group): for gravel over the roadway at entrances to the offroad vehicle park adjacent to that road, and at long straightaways that I didnt want to blast down since I prefer to keep the locals from going hostile on that dead end road that I frequent. Never seen a cop there yet, and dont want too- though at the start of that video, after I pass that minivan, there is a highway patrolman that lives on the left right where I come up on that Jeep. After I took the bug to the forhead I actually waved for the guys to pass me but all I got was negative headshakes from the lead 2 guys. lol
I made them lead on the other road- you can see why I prefer my slower speed tighter road stuff after you watch this: (I purposefully stayed back trying to get them on video and to let them unwind as they were complaining about my going slow on the straighter areas. some of you might recognize the wheelying ZX14...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UimOr1Y9-FQ
Guess I'm getting old: I used to like this kind of high speed riding.
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dogszzr
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posted November 08, 2009 07:25 AM
You can get many quotes online to compare. I couldn't go with statefarm due they wanted my car on insurance also but I know they are the cheapest because they don't go by cc's. Depending on your status, age,area, deductibles, driving record,etc, your rates can vary from person to person with the same company. I'm paying $1400 a year. I love the 14, and yes it's a little heavy but center of gravity suits me. See if you can go to a dealership and test a 14 vs a litre bike, then make the decision. I used to ride my 600 for an hour + and feel it after while buy I can do 2 hours+ on the 14 and hardly feel anything. I chose it over the 10 because they are rare, looks, speed, and less aggressive riding stance.
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posted November 08, 2009 07:04 PM
Having owned a 02 TL1000 the ins. was more than the 07 ZX14 , Miss the TL easey to ride fast in tight ,spaces rough road's, up to maybe 80 mph , then it wobbled , tighten the chain to much it wobbeled, I loved it, but the 14 is the best yet , doese'nt head shake all day long , may not flipp arround like a zx10 , but through your weight arround use the throttel, enjoy ! why toe tap those low toruqe machine's case in point , haveing owened a 88 Katanna 1100, and then traded for a 91 CBR 1000 , the cbr allways need'ed to be at 3000 rpm to go any where, gutless down low .
like big block chevey's , ford's, mopar big block motors , better get a ZX14,
How often ya ride on a track anyway??
have had my 14 up some jeep trails , at the end of pavement , their is dirt , they go their ok that low end .
people drag race 14's all day long , they complain very littel , for the abuse , It's a tested machine!!
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posted November 08, 2009 11:34 PM
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I think the 14 is great around town, its not good for cutting around cars. Its more for prestige. You will have something nobody else has. It does demand respect. Be careful!
+1
I love my 14 . I love how still you don't see too many of them around 
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted November 08, 2009 11:44 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but being in the mid 400's, isn't the ZX14 pretty light anyway? Just a few short years ago that was a VERY good weight for a track bike anyway. I love the way my 14 handles in the twisties and the flat out power in the straights is something I could NEVER give up.
I thought it was high 400's ? Well it don't feel as heavy as it looks and I agree with the way it handles and how it loves the straights
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