eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 01:37 PM
I was a little dissapointed on the aspect of they didn't do tq or rpm's. They didn't tell me until after the run. I'm not familiar with dyno's and didn't know you had to take fairings off to hook up the part for rpm's... My stupidity
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smokehouse4444
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posted September 13, 2009 01:44 PM
fairings off? I don't recall Johnny taking anything off but the fins, and it included rpms. I don't know, maybe I missed something.
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posted September 13, 2009 01:45 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Sep 2009 21:47
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I was a little dissapointed on the aspect of they didn't do tq or rpm's. They didn't tell me until after the run. I'm not familiar with dyno's and didn't know you had to take fairings off to hook up the part for rpm's... My stupidity
You don't have to take off the fairings, they can clip to a coil wire at the ecu....if they know which wire.
Sounds like a bad dyno facility.
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eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 02:21 PM
It is the dealership, and the guy doing it is a very knowledgable guy, but new to running a dyno. They were doing a contest for the month to whoever had themost hp won a gift card.
Shane if you get time, give me a call
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posted September 13, 2009 04:56 PM
i plan on going to htp performance within the next 2 weeks, 300 bucks n from what i heard they are realllly good. it was either that or spend 150 n get a half ass job, i already got one of those now, yall saw the a/f
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eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 04:59 PM
What kind of exhaust u got? Brocks has free maps that guys wirth dyno's have proven to be great maps! I personally think they are dicks, but heard of some fast bikes comming from there.
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Wheelie
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posted September 13, 2009 05:26 PM
eklipse636, what were some numbers from the other bikes?
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masszx14
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posted September 13, 2009 05:32 PM
160 rwhp for a zx14 is just too low IMHO.
A later gsxr 750 with a good full exhaust and the usual bolt-ons puts down
upward of 130 rwhp.
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posted September 13, 2009 06:08 PM
With the r fuel mine will do 175 HP A bad un oiled chain can or will cause a lower reading
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 03:17 AM
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160 rwhp for a zx14 is just too low IMHO.
A later gsxr 750 with a good full exhaust and the usual bolt-ons puts down
upward of 130 rwhp.
i agree... i seen no other bikes run beside the r1, and cant remember his number,but not a lot lower than the 14.. i think i got a friday bike.
one way to look at this is i dont guess im doin too bad to be runnin a 6.0 with only 160 hp! lol
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posted September 14, 2009 04:13 AM
Edited By: NINJA12 on 14 Sep 2009 12:14
93 pump didn't help, try 87 next time.
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 05:11 AM
No one is commenting on the a/f... I'm not familiar with these charts, and would like to understand what is "the right a/f ratio"...
It looks like to me in the higher rpm's the a/f is correct. What I am not understanding is I talked to wheelie and he said the brocks map is something like -20 percent around max rpm (don't quote those numbers). Ok, I don't understand why the hp numbers are so low if the chart shows it close.. A pc will be comming, but not as soon as I'd like
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posted September 14, 2009 05:29 AM
The 08/09 bikes dyno at less hp than the 06/07 bikes. That was the case with all the magazine tests, and what I have seen on here for a year and a half. The 08/09's are just as fast, however. Why this is, I don't know. RG himself said the 08 was faster for him. Mine dyno'd 161hp and 99ft/lbs torque bone stock. With the Brocks smeg, pc, and the Cheese's tune, it was at 181hp and 108ft/lbs torque...and that was in high temp and high humidity. I wouldn't get too caught up in the numbers. The 08/09's have been proven and you are a good pilot, but if I understand correctly, you haven't ridden this one very much. Just ride it up, my man.
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posted September 14, 2009 05:58 AM
Dusty, that a/f doesnt make sense, if it is 13.1 with no ram air it would be extremely lean at 150mph, why would Brock be pulling so much fuel at wot unless it was over rich?
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 06:07 AM
thats what im trying to understand, bc im not getting it. i made that pull sat not for good numbers, but to be at a starting point, and when i get a pc and brocks map, see the difference... just to try and get me to understand these things, as ive never had any dealings with them...
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posted September 14, 2009 06:18 AM
will the 06 pc work on a 09?
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 06:33 AM
havent got that far to ask. to be honest, i havent asked bc i dont have a extra $20 to put into the bike right now. roof leak and getting the ac fixed on the house comes first. i was going to bring it up when i got some extra money to buy one...
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posted September 14, 2009 06:38 AM
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will the 06 pc work on a 09?
wee
maybe someone can answer this so when you have the extra chedder you can get one at a fair price
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 06:41 AM
donations are a help wee 
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posted September 14, 2009 06:43 AM
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donations are a help wee
I just donated a bump for ya.
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 07:27 AM
lol ill take it!
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posted September 14, 2009 07:28 AM
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will the 06 pc work on a 09?
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??
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 07:29 AM
i'llmake another topic
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eklipse636
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posted September 14, 2009 07:30 AM
no one is checking out the boring 160hp thread.. hell, i wouldnt either if i were someone else.
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posted September 14, 2009 07:30 AM
Dusty, not questioning you but why not run 87 octane? I hope someone chimes in if I'm wrong but I see guys running higher octane fuel quite often on NA bikes. Most of the time these bikes would run better with lower octane. With 87 octane the piston is able to get all the way up to the top without combusting the fuel which = more power. With higher octane it combusts faster and lower in the cylinder which = less power. I believe that you want combustion to occur at the very top of the cylinder for optimal HP. Shane????? Thoughts???? MR9 is like 91 octane for a reason.
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