eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 10:04 AM
Dyno'd bike yesterday
here is a copy of the dyno done yesterday. the bike only has brocks alienhead, no pc, and flies in. i knew the a/f ratio was going the be off, but before i put pc on, i was curious as to what the bike was doing.
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
  
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biggmoinc
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posted September 13, 2009 10:24 AM
good to c someone put up a realistic dyno numbers n not post something in the high 170s or low 180s like some i have seen sayin their stock 12 puts out 170s wit a pipe n pc. How did ur change in sprockets help u by the way
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posted September 13, 2009 10:31 AM
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good to c someone put up a realistic dyno numbers n not post something in the high 170s or low 180s like some i have seen sayin their stock 12 puts out 170s wit a pipe n pc. How did ur change in sprockets help u by the way
you dont think a stock 14 with a pipe and pc will make 175+ hp?
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eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 10:32 AM
I only got to run the one day that I posted the video. Had to many variables to consider to say whether it helped or not. I still have the links in my trailor, and haven't put them on yet bc I didn't want to make the chain too long if I decided to go back down. What do you guys think ab the a/f??
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 10:36 AM
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good to c someone put up a realistic dyno numbers n not post something in the high 170s or low 180s like some i have seen sayin their stock 12 puts out 170s wit a pipe n pc. How did ur change in sprockets help u by the way
you dont think a stock 14 with a pipe and pc will make 175+ hp?wee
Lol NOT on that dyno that I was on. I don't know if its standard procedure, but he said it could be off up to 5hp, and he said take away at least 5-7hp for the "corrected"hp.
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Best: 60ft 1.351 1/8 5.68 mph 123.98 1/4
8.89 mph 151.32
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posted September 13, 2009 10:39 AM
 Edited By: Wheelie on 13 Sep 2009 18:52
I think you need to go to the track again, run pump fuel, as much air in the rear tire as possible without wheel spin, get a pc and run the Brockland.com map, extend your chain, remove the secondaries, remove the airfilter and report back your mph.
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eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 10:44 AM
I forgot to add that was on 93 pump gas with air filter in. I will do all the above except the pc, as I'm having to get roof leak fixed and the ac fixed, and they were not in my budget.. So the pc got put on backburner. I will be back at the track in 2weeks
But isn't the a/f pretty close?
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8.89 mph 151.32
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posted September 13, 2009 10:48 AM
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I forgot to add that was on 93 pump gas with air filter in. I will do all the above except the pc, as I'm having to get roof leak fixed and the ac fixed, and they were not in my budget.. So the pc got put on backburner. I will be back at the track in 2weeks
But isn't the a/f pretty close?
you sure you didnt get the chart mixed up with another bike?
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eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 10:56 AM
I noticed that. He didn't put my info in the comp, so it stayed as the previous person. I saw the R1's graph and it was totally different.
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8.89 mph 151.32
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Wheelie
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posted September 13, 2009 11:02 AM
Edited By: Wheelie on 13 Sep 2009 19:02
it says Steven R1 you got the R1 numbers lol
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posted September 13, 2009 11:03 AM
so what year and hp was the R1?
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posted September 13, 2009 11:16 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Sep 2009 19:17
I can't see the chart on my current pc, but what were the peak #'s and correction factor?
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biggmoinc
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posted September 13, 2009 11:17 AM
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good to c someone put up a realistic dyno numbers n not post something in the high 170s or low 180s like some i have seen sayin their stock 12 puts out 170s wit a pipe n pc. How did ur change in sprockets help u by the way
you dont think a stock 14 with a pipe and pc will make 175+ hp?
wee
not what i m sayin, i m just sayin he didnt say some really big numbers like i noticed on some of the so called 12s numbers. I have seen a 07 1000 put out 168 wit a brocks pipe n pc, but i have read piped 12 in the 170's - 180s. Thats what i would guess a 14 piped would do, not a 2000 zx12, i could b wrong but this is just what i've seen on the forum, i would hope a 14 would be in 170's wit a pipe n pc, wish i had one, lol. Why do they call a 1400 a 14 that is 1342 n a 1300 a 13 when its a 1340? why didnt they just call it a zx13, lol.
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Shane661
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posted September 13, 2009 11:17 AM
Peak hp #'s for the 12R and 14 are very close.
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posted September 13, 2009 11:21 AM
Edited By: masszx14 on 13 Sep 2009 19:22
Steven's R1 is weak at 160 rwhp.
My gf's modded 09 R1 laid down upward of 170 on pump gas.
Steven is showing his buddies his 06 180 rwhp R1 dyno chart now! 
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posted September 13, 2009 11:25 AM
What was the correction factor and what model dyno??
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posted September 13, 2009 11:26 AM
quote:
here is a copy of the dyno done yesterday. the bike only has brocks alienhead, no pc, and flies in. i knew the a/f ratio was going the be off, but before i put pc on, i was curious as to what the bike was doing.
Hello Eklipse,
i am Axel from Germany, i am a new user.
Please tell me ist it Cluntch Power ?
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biggmoinc
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posted September 13, 2009 11:27 AM
my 12 showed 161 wit a pipe n pc, #3piston had little blow bye n smoked up his place from what he said. Bone stock was 152, now I'm at 157, lmao.....then again thats not funny! I'm sure a piped up 14 wit stock ecu is 170ish, the mph on some of the guys in the 1/4 is showing better hp than that if u use the calculator. Has anyone seen Karey mcgee run her 14 in the 8.30 index at 169mph,
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biggmoinc
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posted September 13, 2009 11:29 AM
Edited By: biggmoinc on 13 Sep 2009 19:30
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Peak hp #'s for the 12R and 14 are very close.
So the difference is in the torque?
If u built a 1340 12 motor its hp would be quite a bit more than that of the 14 right? or is that a stroker n just put out alot more torque
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posted September 13, 2009 11:36 AM
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Peak hp #'s for the 12R and 14 are very close.
So the difference is in the torque?
If u built a 1340 12 motor its hp would be quite a bit more than that of the 14 right? or is that a stroker n just put out alot more torque
The 14 is has a much broader powerband than the 12.
Regarding a 1340, it depends on how you built the motor, but generally "yes". The 12 has a better cylinder head and more agressive cams than the 14.
Of course, you can always take the 14 to a relatively mild 1534 setup, which will likely clobber a 1340.
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posted September 13, 2009 11:38 AM
i cant wait to c u run that 8 shane
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Shane661
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posted September 13, 2009 11:39 AM
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i cant wait to c u run that 8 shane
It's coming...the local track has car stuff for the next few weeks...so it looks like early October before I can go at it again..
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biggmoinc
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posted September 13, 2009 11:46 AM
even better, the cooler temp will let her breath, lol, the local track here is only open on sundays, n have test n tune once a month, sucks, but saves me a clutch, lol
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eklipse636
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posted September 13, 2009 11:51 AM
It was a older r1. The chart is mine, not the r1. He didn't put my name on it, bike, etc, but the dyno is my graph.
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8.89 mph 151.32
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posted September 13, 2009 12:16 PM
Eklipse, that is actually very close to what my bike originally ran on Johnny's dyno. Bone stock at about 95 degrees it showed 161 hp and 99 ft/lbs torque.
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