LAB3
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posted August 29, 2009 05:01 AM
Ping Bill Eason Need CCT
Bill. I know you have no control over the Machine Shop you have to use now that your Dad
does not do this anymore but any idea whan the 2 ZX12 CCt will ship?
Thanks
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billeason
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posted August 29, 2009 11:10 AM
I will send you one out by thursday, and im very sorry to keep you waiting. If i new it was going to take this long i would not have mentioned that i offered them yet. I have sent a couple more to another machinist and if they are not done Wednesday, i will send you the one off my 06. Its down waiting on a clutch from Tim Hayes, he needed the whole unit to use for the template to start making the convertible/multi, clutch for the 14's. You will have a CCT by the weekend. ......Bill
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LAB3
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posted August 29, 2009 11:15 AM
My friend and I can wait until you have two " New" one's from the Machine Shop Bill.
Going back to Mountains and will be gone for a week and no time to mess with it.
Thanks
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zx14turbo
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posted August 29, 2009 12:40 PM
LAB3, get him to send you your money, he is a crook. you cant trust what he says as far as i would like to throw him. BILL, you may not answer the phone for me but, you will pay for what you took from me one way or another. If i can save one person from wasting their money with you, I am getting mine a little at a time.
Your deceit is unbelievable.
Please comment, there are lots of people from another site that are on here also waiting to hear your rebuttal. Matter of fact one of them sent me this very link, i didnt even have to find it. Its bad when things start catching up with you.
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LAB3
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posted August 29, 2009 12:56 PM
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LAB3, get him to send you your money, he is a crook. you cant trust what he says as far as i would like to throw him. BILL, you may not answer the phone for me but, you will pay for what you took from me one way or another. If i can save one person from wasting their money with you, I am getting mine a little at a time.
Your deceit is unbelievable.
Please comment, there are lots of people from another site that are on here also waiting to hear your rebuttal. Matter of fact one of them sent me this very link, i didnt even have to find it. Its bad when things start catching up with you.
I have Not sent Bill any Funds...if you had a bad experience with Bill that is between
you and Bill. You are FIRST person to say anything Bad about Bill or his work. I have been
reading about Bill and his work for a Year now. Several members here have purchased
ZX-12 CCT that Bill had a mod done to and they work great.
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posted August 29, 2009 01:19 PM
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LAB3, get him to send you your money, he is a crook. you cant trust what he says as far as i would like to throw him. BILL, you may not answer the phone for me but, you will pay for what you took from me one way or another. If i can save one person from wasting their money with you, I am getting mine a little at a time.
Your deceit is unbelievable.
Please comment, there are lots of people from another site that are on here also waiting to hear your rebuttal. Matter of fact one of them sent me this very link, i didnt even have to find it. Its bad when things start catching up with you.
never have heard a bad word about bill eason. if you have a problem lets hear specifics.
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zx14turbo
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posted August 29, 2009 08:57 PM
well, since you ask.
there is a thread in the smack shack on psychobike that is over 100 posts long now on how GREAT a guy bill turned out to be.
i personally took him my bike back in feburary.
long story short i was lied to for months. and when i got the bike back it had some of what he said but, no where near all.
the straw that broke my back was leaving his house the day i picked up my bike and not meeting me. he has not answered a call or pm from me since that day about a month ago.
to top it all off i paid him in excess of 10,000.00 for parts for others and my own bike. im not talking cam chain tensioner money. he also still owes me for an adams swing arm for a 08 busa that was never sent and paid for...........what do you call it? i call it a thief.
if i have to i will post the links to MANY pm's proving my statements. and i can and will get alot more indepth with this if i have to. matter of fact i have messages from his own son that will prove my statements. along with his former customers and friends about the things that he has done to not some but seems to me many people.
trust me BIGTDT I along with many have problems with Bill
Im waiting for a reply or response from bill, been waiting. so have several others that he has gotten out of LARGE amounts of money. Im just giving a heads up to potential customers not to fall like I did, for a bunch of empty promises and lies. MATT PAYNE
makes no difference to me if people spend their money with him or not, my hard earned money and my summer are gone. I gave people a heads up that i didnt have from people till after the fact, do with it what you guys will.
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zx14turbo
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posted August 29, 2009 08:58 PM
well, since you ask.
there is a thread in the smack shack on psychobike that is over 100 posts long now on how GREAT a guy bill turned out to be.
i personally took him my bike back in feburary.
long story short i was lied to for months. and when i got the bike back it had some of what he said but, no where near all.
the straw that broke my back was leaving his house the day i picked up my bike and not meeting me. he has not answered a call or pm from me since that day about a month ago.
to top it all off i paid him in excess of 10,000.00 for parts for others and my own bike. im not talking cam chain tensioner money. he also still owes me for an adams swing arm for a 08 busa that was never sent and paid for...........what do you call it? i call it a thief.
if i have to i will post the links to MANY pm's proving my statements. and i can and will get alot more indepth with this if i have to. matter of fact i have messages from his own son that will prove my statements. along with his former customers and friends about the things that he has done to not some but seems to me many people.
trust me BIGTDT I along with many have problems with Bill
Im waiting for a reply or response from bill, been waiting. so have several others that he has gotten out of LARGE amounts of money. Im just giving a heads up to potential customers not to fall like I did, for a bunch of empty promises and lies. MATT PAYNE
makes no difference to me if people spend their money with him or not, my hard earned money and my summer are gone. I gave people a heads up that i didnt have from people till after the fact, do with it what you guys will.
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zx14turbo
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posted August 29, 2009 09:17 PM
http://psychobike.com/forums/da-smack-shack/26190-lies-people-tell.html
hopefully you guys can see the link
if i have to go further i will, just one question for the people coming to Bills rescue, is it because i am new on here or is it because you think its not possible for a guy that helpful and seemingly nice to do this crap?
also just curious as to how much money have you guys spent and how many times you actually been to the guys place of business. i have spent and lost ALOT, and have been there. im not talking about punching these keys.
i dont drag others in my business, i asked bill to respond to me and make this situation right.....LONG before i resorted to this.
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zx14turbo
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posted August 29, 2009 09:18 PM
http://psychobike.com/forums/da-smack-shack/26190-lies-people-tell.html
hopefully you guys can see the link
if i have to go further i will, just one question for the people coming to Bills rescue, is it because i am new on here or is it because you think its not possible for a guy that helpful and seemingly nice to do this crap?
also just curious as to how much money have you guys spent and how many times you actually been to the guys place of business. i have spent and lost ALOT, and have been there. im not talking about punching these keys.
i dont drag others in my business, i asked bill to respond to me and make this situation right.....LONG before i resorted to this.
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zx14turbo
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posted August 29, 2009 09:32 PM
the zx12 tensioner you are talking about is a bob carpenter copy. there is one in my motor. you could have had it long ago without having to track him down for another answer. imagine doing that with thousands already spent and him not having the decency to respond in any way. at least you got a response even if it wasnt a true on. truth be known the motor that was in his 06 is now in my friend tarnells bike. that was just two weeks ago. and its not the 2x4 he paid for.........what do you know...more lies.
i know its the same motor because his son told me so! i have the pm.
i also know the motor he took out of tarnells bike had an ape tensioner and he was charged for BOBS modified 12 tensioner............i can go on for days
just watch yourselves, thats all. hopefully, he will treat his future customers a little better than he did myself and several others i personally know of.
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nellics
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posted August 29, 2009 10:52 PM
zx14turbo is not lying... I had a 2mil and had bill do a 4 mil crank I was told it was making 225-230...I felt good on the street but when my brothers stock motor 14 pulled away from me I started to question it. Took it to a dyno and it only made 188 RWHP. Called bill he said bring it to me. It was a new motor with less than 300 miles...bill saidit had low compression on all 4 cylinders WTF. Anyway bill said I will try a new head if that doesnt work I will put a new motor in it...WTF... We agreed on another 2X4 exchange because he had one laying around. I get my bike back and i sounds good but something doesnt feel right. My new mechanic takes it apart and it is a 3X5...bill told me it was a 2X4 and I could ride it on the street. I would have blown the motor up in a few days. Believe it or not but go on psychobike and read the thread I bet it will change the way you think about him.... I am here to tell the truth and if it is not the truth bill let it be know. Just trying to save others from being screwwed
Just read the tread and judge for yourself
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zx14turbo
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posted August 30, 2009 05:56 AM
lets get back to some more specifics, since i have seen no replies and am very eager to find out why i was treated the way i was treated.
Bill, i talked to chris jones and the bov set up and fuel system you told me you tried on my bike and were working on was all lies.......chris doesnt know you, AT ALL.
Bill, i also talked to terry at mr turbo. you had no clue as to what to do with my bike. it is set up to the letter the way terry told me to set it up. you also told me you had a pro street 14 w/ a carpenter head and motor. sad part is bob has never done a prostreet motor for you and you dont own another 14 besides the black 06. your son told me so, again i have the pm.
also, after talking to terry please tell me again how much the turbo cost for my bike. he had a little trouble remembering the astronomical number you quoted me. i know how much it was i just want to hear it from you so i can post what you told me.
Bill, i am not broke nor did i ever tell you i was. My exact words were i do this little by little as my side work allows. but, if you ever need money from me let me know and i will get it out of my "family" savings. you have told several members on here i was out of money,bs!
since i picked my bike up from his shop i have talked knowledgable people and gotten my bike running again. the wiring is repaired, the bov is done, the hole in my steering neck is filled, the larger access cover gaskets are installed,the lock up is in, the fp gauge is on the regulator. i also went out and bought a begi fmu to use in tuning the bike if i ran out of fp with the 1:1 regulator. i also re routed the oil feed line so i could get my plastics on, i also re mounted my shifter so the air shifter would work.
i have spent well over 1000.00 more dollars and plenty of time on a bike that i have good money in just to get down the street............coming from his shop. not to mention the 1100.00 i had to spend in the busa to re purchace a swing arm that i paid you for already.
i was also told i would have a ported head and cams in my bike. i pulled it apart the first day home, it wouldnt run anyway(electrical problem). and guess what, nothing on the exhaust and a light (at best) scuff in the intake runners. not even enough to remove or flatten the casting marks.
prob done with the valves still in the head, who knows!
and AGAIN, i have not been able to get in contact with this man since the day he left his house and i picked my bike up with no one there........you guys think thats even the least bit STRANGE.
I paid you up front mr eason! i bought the turbo from you, had nothing but trouble, i bought my own fuel system. my new friend brian gave you another fuel rail...for me cause im broke according to you! and i sent you 5000.00 on top of that.....for my bike alone! you took my 550 injectors and fuel rail. ( i gave them as a token of appreciation for his hard work) i now have a turbo bike with the stockers, cause you couldnt tune the bike. fact is you never tried tuning it!
lets hear from you Bill......................................lets see if you can explain away what you have done.
and just so you guys know, i do think a handshake and a gentleman's agreement are a viable way to do business. I TELL THE TRUTH no matter the consequence. this was calculated theft over time. not just an oversite.
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eklipse636
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posted August 30, 2009 06:18 AM
Wow...
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bigdtd
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posted August 30, 2009 06:23 AM
wow those are specifics! i don't think you would relate them in such detail without them being true. someone has some explaining to do. thanks for the heads up. i am with you on the gentlemen's agreement thing, me and my friends that work on my stuff never have to sign contracts, we talk about it, everyone does what they are supposed to, everyone's happy. its a shame that this happened to you and someone should MAKE IT RIGHT.
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eklipse636
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posted August 30, 2009 06:37 AM
I've talked to bill quite a few times, and never talked about motor work, but when I wrecked he offered so much stuff for free, and was great help with a lot of stuff. Didn't think he was that type of guy
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LAB3
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posted August 30, 2009 07:01 AM
Me either.....Really Suprised as I readALL the posts on PB.sigh. I have waited many weeks for the 2 ZX12 CCT to be Modded but did not send funds. I hope there is a
explaination for ZX14Turbo and several others who SAY Bill has done them Wrong.
I do not know these 14 owners so I am waiting on a explaination from Bill.
I hope Bill does Clear this matter up ASAP. I thought Bill was a Straight Shooter and
he has emailed me back and offered a CCT from his 14 as the Machine Shop has not
done the work yet.
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zx14turbo
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posted August 30, 2009 07:01 AM
i used to wonder how he ended up with so much stuff to be able to just give it to people, now i know.
i will give you another example.
i know a guy in NC that sent his bike to bill for a nos kit and springs and retainers
bike had a brocks map........no tune and was charged for a dyno tune
bike had no nos map.........none!
line going to the spray bar was finger tight......we know it was never sprayed
or it would have leaked profusely
after reading about my troubles he took his bike to a reputable business and guess what....
no springs and retainers and no cams degreed...............but, his reciept says it was done
and it was paid for.
this is how you GIVE things to others...........who knows maybe one of his FRIENDS ended up with this guys springs and retainers.........we will probably never know. what i do know is this person was charged labor and for parts that he did not get. thats free money, and its criminal. this is no gentlemans agreement. it is all documented from start to finish. legal action is in progress as we speak. .
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posted August 30, 2009 08:12 AM
LAB3, glad to see you have read all the psychobike thread. in reading that thread could you tell the members on here just how many replies and or explainations Bill had for customers that not only SAY he did them wrong but, have gone back and checked behind his work at credible shops and found that what he says was done in many instances WAS NOT.
i went back and counted the number of people that have contacted me privately about Bill and his misuse of there money in one form or another. that number is 11. not counting the ones that publicly said they either had bad dealing with him or called him on it before things went bad.
these are not coincidental and arent random.
you give people good info, you give menial parts away for free, you offer good and reasonable explaination for any situation (ie cct) and then you have their trust. once that is earned then its like sheep to slaughter...........................I WAS ONE OF THOSE SHEEP!
call bob carpenter tomorrow and see how long it takes to actually get a cct modded the way you want it. i bet you would be surprised that the wait is no where near what you have encountered, a true friend and or businessman would gotten the tensioner for you LONG ago. without the PING to find out what is going on.
I have more than explained myself, and also spoke out on a fourm that i am new to and expected to be crusified. my facts are straight! so are the others that SAY you have wronged them.
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posted August 30, 2009 10:39 AM
 Edited By: loki 7 on 30 Aug 2009 21:50
I was totally blown away with all of this stuff about Bill Eason. I watched and waiting on PB for a response to all the accusations of theif. But no response was ever offered. I know for a fact from a business stand point you must answer to a customer whether good or bad....slience is never an option in the customer service arena. Bill has choosen the good ole slient treatment. A lot of things didn't add up when I got my bike back but, I wrote them off as innocent oversights on Bill's part. I was told that besides the stage 1 NOS set up there was a lot of little things to make the bike run stronger. I always believed it was my riding ablitiy that wasn't netting me the results I wanted. Since I had taken the mechanical aspect out of the equation by getting Bill to work his magic on my bike. It was true magic with smoke and mirrors. I never saw a dyno sheet because Bill had printer problems. But was told my bike made 212hp on a shot of gas but to quote Bill " my dyno reads low but that bitch is strong".
I picked my bike up in Feb, but never sprayed the bike at the track except one time last month ,managed 123 mph on gas in the 1/8 . As I started looking, and noticed that my NOS map and my motor map was totally different. I mean totally different( large number changes) in every cell, pretty interesting since I'm only spray at 100% throttle above 8K. I know my bike was never dyno'd on motor or spray. As was mentioned earlier, my fittings were finger tight. My bottle mount is on the side arm and mounted with bottle neck downward by design..the sipher tube was still in the bottle. It was explained away that he used his bottle when he tuned my bike. I have several different things that lead me to taking my bike to get it checked out. The head on my bike has never been off. So I paid for valve springs, cam degreeing and several other things that's associated with the stage 1 package.
I had nothing but respect for Mr. Eason but I guess respect is a oneway street.
It's your money folks. He might do the work you pay for or he might not, its a game of chance. Do you feel lucky?
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posted August 31, 2009 03:35 AM
you know i find it just a little strange that i answered my CALLOUT from the people who support you Bill!
I answered with facts and witness accounts of other wrong doing on your part.
not only have you lied to me for months and fabricated stories to keep me happy and buy time (just like you are doing with the tensioners now) for yourself, you stole money from a military police officer that i had to make right. AND DID! those busa parts i have a 2900.00 cancelled check for were for him and you knew that. and lets not even get into the CRAZY stuff that went on with the crank..........three months and nothing done when it came back! no charge, gee thanks!
the reason you wont answer is because myself and the others you decided to take on this ride have lots of the garbage that was spewed from your mouth in pm's and can prove what we say and some went even further and had there bikes torn down by real professionals to see what you actually did for them. some work but, not all doesnt count when people pay their hard earned money for your service.
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LAB3
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posted August 31, 2009 05:12 AM
Edited By: LAB3 on 31 Aug 2009 13:13
I will call Bob Carpenter Race Engines this morning and ask how much 2 CCt are for a 14.
I guess Bill has "Short Changed" some of his customers as he has not responded.
Thanks for the WARNING I really thought Bill would Email here or at home with a
reason for this. I am shocked that he would do this as so many 14 owners here
Have a lot of respect for him. Matt I was going ask him for a price to port my head etc.
too. You saved me a lot of time, money and grief. Carpenter Race Engines for me.
Man I thought BIll was a Good person.......... sorry you got Taken. I HATE a THIEF
and I hope Bill will make things Right with you to save Face on this Forum.
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posted August 31, 2009 07:52 AM
bumping for a reply
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Wheelie
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posted August 31, 2009 08:01 AM
wondering what zx12rbob thinks about all of this, He was dealing with Bill and had nothing but great things to say about him.
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LAB3
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posted August 31, 2009 08:13 AM
I just called Carpenter Race Engines they do not have any ZX-12 CCT in stock. Told me to call back in 2 weeks. Or get one have .120 machined of the front. Oh well still playing the waiting game. I asked how much he said he did not know right now, call back in 2 weeks.
He also said he was Not big on running a manual CCT on a 14 for the street as it was hard
on this model chain compaired to the auto adjust.??
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