JR
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posted July 21, 2009 12:09 PM
loud ticking noise
okay i cracked my oil pan sunday didnt even notice intill i got home so i drove the bike for about 4 minutes no oil light came on. once i got home it leaked a good amount out . i fixed the bike no oil leak but now i hear my vaives ticking pretty loud ! is that normal or is it a sign of somthing going wrong. or is it just my head messing with me since i drove the bike home like that. what you guys think
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Bluebyyou
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posted July 21, 2009 01:27 PM
Are sure it's not the cam chain tensioner rattling? The only thing is, that would only rattle a couple seconds at startup. Not to worry you but I've read the idiot oil light is not reliable.
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JR
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posted July 21, 2009 01:33 PM
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Are sure it's not the cam chain tensioner rattling? The only thing is, that would only rattle a couple seconds at startup. Not to worry you but I've read the idiot oil light is not reliable.
nah its not the tensioner ratting i know how that sounds. it sounds like a valve ticking. but the bike feels good still. i know i switch the oil might that be it i used some car oil this time they say its all the same i hope.
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JR
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posted July 21, 2009 06:43 PM
any one out their
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smokinZX14
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posted July 21, 2009 07:13 PM
Well without hearing it myself i can't really say ... But i can tell you this , my 09 injectors tick like crazy ...My 06 never did this .... The 09 sounds like every valve is ticking, hot or cold it sounds the same ...
As long as it not Knocking down low i think you have little to worry about ...
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JR
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posted July 21, 2009 07:55 PM
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Well without hearing it myself i can't really say ... But i can tell you this , my 09 injectors tick like crazy ...My 06 never did this .... The 09 sounds like every valve is ticking, hot or cold it sounds the same ...
As long as it not Knocking down low i think you have little to worry about ...
smokin the bike never ticked before intill i cracked the pan and drove it like that. idk what to do . i read the same thing happen to seven and he ended up messing the motor up but hes ticking started after 200 hundred miles. what do you recammend me to do. im going crazy over the ticking. i hope nothing is wrong with the motor. i hear no knocking just the ticking it not crazy ticking its just tick tick then it stops then ticks . the only thing i did different was i put 10-40 castrol car oil. thank smokin for some info and nice numbers and launching.
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06redzx14
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posted July 21, 2009 08:18 PM
have you ruled out an exhaust leak?
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smokinZX14
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posted July 21, 2009 08:29 PM
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have you ruled out an exhaust leak?
Good call ... He may have hit the pipe along with the pan causing the exhaust to leak ..
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JR
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posted July 21, 2009 08:31 PM
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have you ruled out an exhaust leak?
ruled out wat you mean by that ? i checked if the header was leaking nothing they on pretty tight. im just a little nervous because i read some one with the same problem and they started ticking after 200 mile they ended up chiping the crank all up and more.
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JR
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posted July 21, 2009 08:37 PM
hm... im gonna have to dubble cheak for exhaust leak under the header . but i did check 4 leaks for a while while i was checking if their was any oil leaks under the pan . im just hoping its not the motor. i wouldnt want to rebuild yet. i havnt got the stock power et yet to build on it .
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smokinZX14
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posted July 21, 2009 09:03 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 22 Jul 2009 05:04
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hm... im gonna have to dubble cheak for exhaust leak under the header . but i did check 4 leaks for a while while i was checking if their was any oil leaks under the pan . im just hoping its not the motor. i wouldnt want to rebuild yet. i havnt got the stock power et yet to build on it .
Get a rag and hold it tight over the end of the pipe while running ... If it has an exhaust leak you will hear it ...
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JR
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posted July 21, 2009 09:05 PM
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hm... im gonna have to dubble cheak for exhaust leak under the header . but i did check 4 leaks for a while while i was checking if their was any oil leaks under the pan . im just hoping its not the motor. i wouldnt want to rebuild yet. i havnt got the stock power et yet to build on it .
Get a rag and hold it over the end of the pipe while running ... If it has an exhaust leak you will hear it ...
put the rag over the exhaust you mean or under the header
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smokinZX14
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posted July 21, 2009 09:11 PM
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hm... im gonna have to dubble cheak for exhaust leak under the header . but i did check 4 leaks for a while while i was checking if their was any oil leaks under the pan . im just hoping its not the motor. i wouldnt want to rebuild yet. i havnt got the stock power et yet to build on it .
Get a rag and hold it over the end of the pipe while running ... If it has an exhaust leak you will hear it ...
put the rag over the exhaust you mean or under the header
NO put it in the end of the pipe ... stop the exhaust from coming out the end of the pipe ...This will make the back pressure very high and if there is a leak it will get much louder ..
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JR
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posted July 21, 2009 09:15 PM
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hm... im gonna have to dubble cheak for exhaust leak under the header . but i did check 4 leaks for a while while i was checking if their was any oil leaks under the pan . im just hoping its not the motor. i wouldnt want to rebuild yet. i havnt got the stock power et yet to build on it .
Get a rag and hold it over the end of the pipe while running ... If it has an exhaust leak you will hear it ...
put the rag over the exhaust you mean or under the header
NO put it in the end of the pipe ... stop the exhaust from coming out the end of the pipe ...This will make the back pressure very high and if there is a leak it will get much louder ..
ok ill check it asap and thanks alot guys for the info
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WindSwordNinja
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posted July 21, 2009 10:40 PM
Hey Jr I had a ticking noise on my bike after I had it tuned on a dyno, and I thought for sure it was a valve tapping. It sounded "mechanical" and I just knew that some part of the valve train was going bad after being taken to the rev limiter so many times. It turned out to be a bad header gasket. Once it was replaced everything was back to normal. I have a full 2 brothers exhaust also. Hopefully that is all that is causing your noise as well.
Good luck!
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blackbullet76
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posted July 22, 2009 05:49 AM
Cut open the old oil filter (if you changed it) and see what's inside.
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busaisbetter
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posted July 22, 2009 01:06 PM
youtube the sound - if possible.
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Obba
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posted July 22, 2009 02:24 PM
Yeah, busaisbetter, i was going to mention that - beat me to it.
JR: Good advice that. Just record it, and post it on UT.
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JR
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posted July 22, 2009 04:27 PM
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hm... im gonna have to dubble cheak for exhaust leak under the header . but i did check 4 leaks for a while while i was checking if their was any oil leaks under the pan . im just hoping its not the motor. i wouldnt want to rebuild yet. i havnt got the stock power et yet to build on it .
Get a rag and hold it over the end of the pipe while running ... If it has an exhaust leak you will hear it ...
put the rag over the exhaust you mean or under the header
NO put it in the end of the pipe ... stop the exhaust from coming out the end of the pipe ...This will make the back pressure very high and if there is a leak it will get much louder ..
ok ill check it asap and thanks alot guys for the info
smokin did what you recomended i put the rag had a freind check then i did no leaks. i took the bike for a run the bike feels great runs strong. i notice it comes and goes. i think it normal like you say because both of my freinds 14 do a little ticking too. but so far every things cool. thanks for all the good info and keep up the good work.
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windshiel, carbon fiber frame
sliders, full 2brother exhaust.
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JR
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posted July 22, 2009 04:32 PM
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Hey Jr I had a ticking noise on my bike after I had it tuned on a dyno, and I thought for sure it was a valve tapping. It sounded "mechanical" and I just knew that some part of the valve train was going bad after being taken to the rev limiter so many times. It turned out to be a bad header gasket. Once it was replaced everything was back to normal. I have a full 2 brothers exhaust also. Hopefully that is all that is causing your noise as well.
Good luck!
windswore i put my headers back on i didnt notice no gasket ohh where do you mean at the end of the header? i did that rag thing at the end of the pipe i hear no exhaust leak. i drove the bike it feels good idk maybe it normal some of my freinds bike do it too. also what kind of numbers did you get with ur two brother system? i would like to know thanks
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JR
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posted July 22, 2009 04:33 PM
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youtube the sound - if possible.
ok
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Bently
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posted July 22, 2009 05:20 PM
Actually both of the 14's I have owned sound like shit with a lot of mechanical noise but to me it's all normal cause they run good.
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ninjaboy311
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posted July 22, 2009 06:41 PM
Drain the oil in a clean container and look for flakes. If a bearing is gone you should see the flakes. Can always re-use the oil if you don't see anything.
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JR
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posted July 22, 2009 06:57 PM
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Drain the oil in a clean container and look for flakes. If a bearing is gone you should see the flakes. Can always re-use the oil if you don't see anything.
im gonna drain the oil and check it out. im gonna have to pull the oil pan out again i think the gasket is on a little off i see a little drip of oil at the bottom of the pan
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ninjaboy311
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posted July 22, 2009 07:17 PM
When you pull the pan, get under the bike with a light and look at the rods/bearings. If one is spinning, you should be able to see it, not to mention would have the flakes in the pan. Also, while you have the pan off, pull the oil pickup and make sure the screen is clear while you have it down.
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