JR
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posted July 15, 2009 09:47 PM
need some advice
okay my problem is with my gearing i got a 42 , 44 , and a 45 . im about 230 geared up . with the 42 it felt like i needed some more gearing. so i tryed the 44 and 45 i skiped the 43 since almost all the 14 around me are uses the 44t but with the 44 and the 45 the bike goes right up at the track about a four oclock it even goes a little more dont like the feel of the wheely. im at 65 an a half inches long . should i go longer or try fanning the clutch some ? aint you suppose to release the clutch fast and pinn the gas asap with the 44 and 45t.
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blackbullet76
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posted July 15, 2009 10:08 PM
My friend can launch harder than me at the track. With him ridin my 14, he wheelied it pretty bad when he went full throttle. I had it at 7" over stock with 16/44 gearing. He had to get out of the throttle and get back in it.
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BobC
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posted July 16, 2009 01:26 AM
Don't wish to be critical but isn't it more a case of control rather than gearing? There are riders in my club who think a wheelie is obligatory and part of the spectacle of sprinting but they will never achieve their true potential that way.
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kawasakijockey
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posted July 16, 2009 11:10 AM
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okay my problem is with my gearing i got a 42 , 44 , and a 45 . im about 230 geared up . with the 42 it felt like i needed some more gearing. so i tryed the 44 and 45 i skiped the 43 since almost all the 14 around me are uses the 44t but with the 44 and the 45 the bike goes right up at the track about a four oclock it even goes a little more dont like the feel of the wheely. im at 65 an a half inches long . should i go longer or try fanning the clutch some ? aint you suppose to release the clutch fast and pinn the gas asap with the 44 and 45t.
We weigh the same and I have the same issue with the 44t if I go wot coming off the clutch too soon. A 68in wb would fix the issue for me but I dont want to be over 64.5. The 42 gives me the same but more consistent times as the 44 because I can stay on the throttle wide open. If I made even the slightest mistake with my clutch hand with the 44t it was up in the air. Usually late at night when I was getting tired. After a busted pan I ain't going that route again. If you want to make the 44 work just learn to stay on the clutch longer or lengthen the wb.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 01:39 PM
thanks
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Wheelie
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posted July 16, 2009 01:46 PM
do you have the stock clutch and springs?
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1badzx12r
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posted July 16, 2009 01:46 PM
whats the front sprocket ..
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Shane661
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posted July 16, 2009 01:47 PM
Just curious, what are your ET's?
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icarus
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posted July 16, 2009 01:47 PM
Is your suspension set up correctly also? How low are you? Stock shock or aftermarket?
I am 220 suited and run 16/46 at 64 1/2 wb. What works for me was getting the bike as
low as possible and tuning the suspension. I also let the clutch out very quickly and
use the gas for wheelie control. This may or may not be apples to apples but I hope
this helps. In the end you have to do what works best for YOU!
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Shane661
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posted July 16, 2009 01:50 PM
I ran that setup at about 63.25", and your weight. Best of 9.30 and 1.49 60 ft. I am an average rider, there was more in it than that.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 04:52 PM
wheelie yeah stock clutch and springs.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 04:55 PM
shane my et, im still working on it. im at 10.1, 10.2 i hope to see some 9s with the 44t or 45 or should i go back to stock and get the feel of it first.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 05:01 PM
expert class , my suspension is set up with the stock setting still . i just lowered it a little more im at the third hole the lowest now i gotta see how that works out and straped in the front so the bike is pretty low. yeah i got the stock shock too.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 05:02 PM
pro im got a 16 t in the front
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kawasakijockey
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posted July 16, 2009 05:28 PM
Run the spring all the way firm and set the compression (top screw) 1/2 to 3/4 from full hard and the rebound screw to full hard. Thats where mine wheelies the least.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 05:49 PM
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Run the spring all the way firm and set the compression (top screw) 1/2 to 3/4 from full hard and the rebound screw to full hard. Thats where mine wheelies the least.
thanks im gonna give it a try should i leave the front stock setting
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kawasakijockey
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posted July 16, 2009 05:54 PM
If you dont have a strap then set the rebound (top screws) to full hard. This will slow the unloading (extension of the forks) when you launch. It does not work like a strap but helps a little.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
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9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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kawasakijockey
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posted July 16, 2009 05:56 PM
Wait a minute..I just reread your first post. Is the bike popping up as soon as you move off the start?
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9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 06:20 PM
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Wait a minute..I just reread your first post. Is the bike popping up as soon as you move off the start?
yes it pops up at the start its lowered and straped in the front
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kawasakijockey
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posted July 16, 2009 06:41 PM
Yeah, you are throwing way too much clutch at it. What rpm you launching at, 6000? Try 4500 and stay on that clutch.
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Get on the shortbus boys 'cause its time to get schooled.
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9.03 @ 149mph
8.95 @153 small shot n2o
8.68 @160mph 5lbs boost
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posted July 16, 2009 06:50 PM
i hate to say it but i think it would be easier to ride with the stock gearing. adding teeth to the rear is going to make it come up quicker. suspension setup is critical as well. stiffer in the back or get someone to help you set it up. we have some suspension gurus locally (chad) and it will make a big difference to get it set up right.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 07:57 PM
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Yeah, you are throwing way too much clutch at it. What rpm you launching at, 6000? Try 4500 and stay on that clutch.
thanks alot for the advise im gonna give it a shot next week .
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sliders, full 2brother exhaust.
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 08:02 PM
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i hate to say it but i think it would be easier to ride with the stock gearing. adding teeth to the rear is going to make it come up quicker. suspension setup is critical as well. stiffer in the back or get someone to help you set it up. we have some suspension gurus locally (chad) and it will make a big difference to get it set up right.
yeah it is a little easeir but i notice i need to leave real high with stock gearing. also theirs alot of comp at the track alot of busas im dieing to race with good set up. ill guess ill keep practicing
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 08:05 PM
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Just curious, what are your ET's?
10.2 im still working on it lol thats why i gear up to help the 60 foot. my mph is 143 i should be in the 9s should i?
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JR
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posted July 16, 2009 08:07 PM
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do you have the stock clutch and springs?
wee
wheelie yeah stock clutch and springs
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