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posted June 19, 2009 07:06 AM
gilles variobars
Anybody have experience with the gilles variobars?
I know they don't list the 14 specifically, but was wondering if anybody made them work.
Dubious, didn't you have them?
Thanks,
Chris
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posted June 19, 2009 08:49 AM
 Edited By: dubious on 19 Jun 2009 16:53
Yes I have them on my bike.
If you mount them above the tripple, you must raise the fork, and mount them in front of the fork. I had to modify quite a few things to prevent interference with the tank cowl with them mounted behind the fork( closer to the tank and rider)
I have not come to a conclusive verdict yet, the bike should be running very soon to do so.
I had LSR match offset above the fork before, postioned close to the rider, very comfortable, but again not a direct bolt on, mods must be made to clear the tank shroud and clear the resvoirs, and rotated the throttle housing so the cables clear, when the bars are at full lock.
The easiest recommendation I have is genmar riser blocks, direct bolt on, but the stock downward rearward angle does not change, just the height on the bar.
The angle and distance was my problem with the stockers, The angle aggrevated my wrists.
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posted June 19, 2009 09:13 AM
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The angle and distance was my problem with the stockers, The angle aggrevated my wrists.
That's where I'm at. I have helibars now, not quite cuttin' it.
I need to change the angle, bring them back & slightly up.
It's not too bad solo, but with the wife on, it gets old fast.
Did you modify the steering stop?
Do you have any pics of the install? I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Chris
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posted June 19, 2009 09:41 AM
OK, now these are with an entire GSXR front end, which pulls the fork 1/2 " closer to the rider, the offset is 1/2" less than stock... so be forewarned... I am not exactly sure how that will affect on stock zx14 tripples....
variobars with 80mm risers... easiest way to do them
I don't have many good pics with the lsr set up but here are a few
On either set up, you will need to grind the switchhousing and throttle locator tabs for aftermarket bars, and fab up custom resevoir brackets.. easy to do with a couple small pices to do with 1/8" aluminum flat bar, and a bench vise to bend them appropriatly.
The lever brackets and throttle are elliptical, and will pinch the bar, so they will not move, but the switch housings are not elliptical, they are round, so I use grip tape... like on skate boards, on 1/2 the circumference of the bar under the housings... they never moved... non issue.
Unfortunattely none of these are simple mods, ensuring everything clears, doen't rub, and the cables are free through the whole steering sweep. Expect 4 hors to get it all right.
Postioning of the bars must be very careful, and I also had to modify the lever blocks, to clear the fork and clip on base on both sides...
LOL and everyone wonders whay this bike project has taken so long... even if I spent every day 10 hrs a day on this bike, had my own lathe/mill and tusted my alumium welding skill- it would take about 2 months to build. With exception of about 20% of the parts, nothing was direct bolt on.
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posted June 19, 2009 09:43 AM
Edited By: dubious on 19 Jun 2009 17:47
Shit, I just remebered the gilles MUST be mounted under the tripple clamp in the 14, at the top clapm is not flat and they will not fit in the stock casting hole for the original parts...
NIX the gilles option I am afraid...way too much work.
The LSR would be the better cheaper way to go.
You can see they are almost level with the top of the tank, and how flat and straight they are.
Originaly I had them set up straight like a flat drag bar, but could hardly reach the outside bar when turning.
I have modified the steering stops on the gsxr frt end, I had to, because the gsxr stops did not align with the steering stop tabs on the frame.
You will not need to do so with the LSR offset match pieces.
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posted June 19, 2009 10:30 AM
oops... LSR should have read LSL all along.... I got them from spiegler USA
http://www.spieglerusa.com/cfm/clipon.cfm?type=offset
They have a conventional bar kit which should be direct bolt on too...
Might want to consider this for your passenger... will make your life easier I am sure..
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posted June 19, 2009 11:14 AM
Thanks dubious! Your a fountain of knowledge!
Tried googling LSR...nothing (except Land Speed Record).
Thanks again.
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posted June 19, 2009 12:10 PM
Edited By: JDC on 19 Jun 2009 20:13
Holly crap Dubious, that gold anodized work looks very nice!
I have converti-bars and I am pretty happy with them. I have them adjusted to about a 4" rise and several inchs back. They could have been risen with their stock tubes to about 6" rise... then I could have laid a TV tray across'em. I cut them off to a 4" max.
Makes a tremendous difference to have those ape hangars for wrists, neck and back.
For what you get in parts, they seem a bit steep in price.
They are not nearly as good look'in as the setup on Dubvious's bike. In fact, that setup makes them look homely! Thank goodness they are dark, so they are harder to see...
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posted June 19, 2009 12:33 PM
dubious, is that rizoma brake/clutch reservoir 
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posted June 19, 2009 12:53 PM
Edited By: dubious on 19 Jun 2009 20:55
yup, their modified Rizoma's
no brackets, had stainless tubes made to mount the resevoirs directly to the brake assembly! They fit square and flat now, thiose were still trial fit pic's.
I have spent hours and many trial fitments to get everything right, and in almost every aspect of the bike...right for me at least... some don't like it and some do...
Wait till you see what I have done with the electronics, the turbo, and the tail section!
The best aspects are hidden unfortunately... inside the motor and such.
Thanks for the compliment JDC!
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