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posted May 30, 2009 11:43 PM
ecu wiring harnes
i have a motty afr tuner(that i like a lot) on my 06 that i will instal on my new 09 SE next week .is there someone that can tell me if the plug at the ecu and the wiring code color are the same on the 06 and 09. thank
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posted May 31, 2009 04:33 AM
I have plugged an 08 ecu into my 06 and it ran ,,, so the plugs are the same. I took a quick look at the wires and the wire colors looked the same , but I cannot guarantee that all the colors are identical.
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posted May 31, 2009 04:50 AM
Wiring should not change between years. No new parts have been added to the DFI system = You are good to go is match same colors between '06 and '09.
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posted May 31, 2009 08:23 AM
thanks for the replys very helpful for me .bruno
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posted June 04, 2009 06:11 PM
06 to 08 harness has the same colour wires but from what I noticed the wires looked thicker in a couple of spots.
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posted June 26, 2009 05:14 PM
09 are not the same.i get my plug and play harnes for my motty afr today =not working the plug are the same but the wires are not the same.bruno
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posted June 27, 2009 07:28 PM
what you mean the wires are not the same
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posted June 27, 2009 08:11 PM
 Edited By: bruno nadeau on 28 Jun 2009 04:14
they dont have the same color as my 06 .i dont know if they have the same fonction.if they have the same fonction it is the plug and play harnes that they made for me that is defective.the color of the wire in my 09 are not the same as in the service manual in this forum.i can instal the motty afr tuner like i do in my 06 by stripping and cutting wire and instead of going with color i can go by the plug number on the ecu if the wire have the same fonction as my 06.but i do not want to make mistake.by the way the motty afr tuner is not defective i test the plug and play harnes with a special bypas plug that come with the motty and i have the same problem wen i remove the plug and play the bike run OK.any help with the wire will be apreciate.thanks
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posted June 28, 2009 04:44 PM
How many wires come out of the Motty, 6?
1. Red (+) to battery hot side
2. Black (-) to ground
3. To an injector
4. To an injector
5. To an injector
6. To an injector
What other wire(s) are out of said unit?
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posted June 28, 2009 05:31 PM
HI pissear
there is 19 wires from the mottyto the ecu.the best way to see it if you have 5 minutes is to go to www.afrtuner.com go to download and afr tuner user manuel page 50 and 52 you will see the pinout number of the 06 07 of the ecu and the color code of the matching wire they are the same as the service manual in this forum(this is the way i instal it on my 06) but the color of the wires on my 09 are not the same.thanks
bruno
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posted June 28, 2009 06:19 PM
Interesting link....Hmmmm.
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posted June 28, 2009 06:49 PM
It looks pretty much straight forward. Read your components and then match the wires.
What wires are you hung up with? No matter the component, you swap wires like say the GPS has the r/grn or the light green. If say you wired up to the light green on the GPS, only one other wire to swap to is the r/grn, because the other is a ground wire. Sort of you cannot mess up matching the Motty to the harness.
It looks likes more like you triple up the 3 grounds, add 4 of the other injectors to the others > I didn't read if you tie them together or not? I took a guess. Match the other units described as your water temp and TPS, etc.
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posted June 28, 2009 07:24 PM
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Wow!
Pissear, we can understand you very well these days!
Hoooray!
You have allot to contribute, and it really is appreciated BTW
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posted June 28, 2009 07:37 PM
thanks i will try it like that instead of going with color i will go with pinout number(like i said my 09 wires dont have the same colors as my 06).i know that is easy to do i do it on my 06 and it work very well.but there is another thing i have to say.i buy a plug and play harnes from www. afrtuner-usa.com (it is not the motty head office it is a distributeur that make plug and play for the motty afr tuner 160.00$(it is independant).after instaling the plug and play i test it with a bypas injector plug that come with the motty for testing the instalation before pluging the afr tuner this way the engine is supposed to run like it come from the factory but the engine run roght and black smoke and stall.they make the plug and play like it was for a 06 07.now is the plug and play defective or there is something different in the 09 harnes.
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posted June 28, 2009 07:57 PM
If that engine runs rough and black smoke is there with a fat rich stall, then that 02 is not working to clear up the soot. That Motty is 02 semi-closed loop. It is not like the PC-3 without the 02 like the PC-5's option.
Did you touch that prong of the 02 with your oily fingers. It will send the wrong if not soot up the works giving out false readings.
Now, you need to make sure the Motty 02 is hot before you start the bike. See, the 02 needs to be hot, so when the cooler air hits the prong, she cools down/heats up [sends the slight drop in voltage] because of the change in heat past the 02's internal glow plug. So, now with a cold engine or exhaust, turn the key on only. Can you feel the 02 getting warm or hot to the touch? With a wet finger, you can hit the bung or the exposed 02 to feel for heat as this is now is ready to compute the fuel trim.
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posted June 29, 2009 02:04 AM
at this point the motty and the 02 sensor are not instaled only the bypas plug.to understand what i say go back to www.afrtuner.com and user manual and read page 11.the bypas plug is like nothing have changed on the bike.thank
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posted June 29, 2009 06:43 AM
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Wow!
Pissear, we can understand you very well these days!
Hoooray!
You have allot to contribute, and it really is appreciated BTW
+1 way to go pissear
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posted June 29, 2009 08:41 AM
Pg. 11 AFR manual ~ "Using a digital multimeter measure the
resistance between the negative
terminal of the battery and each of the
three ground terminals of the Main
connector (Main-9, Main-15 and
Main-20).
Warning: do not force the probe into
the connector contacts = 0.1 ohms resistance."
And the other is the bike is running and that pushes the volts higher when the key is off. So, say the well charged battery will hold that 13 + volts before it bleeds down to 12.8 ~ 12.6v on a well charge/good known part is working properly.
So, that 02 can run with or without as long as the grounds show no current draw past the normal resistance. Unless that clock and ECM draw more for resistance for the memory via the battery, being they are still drawing current to keep the clock and memory in check.
What part of page 11 are you referencing?
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posted June 29, 2009 08:57 AM
no 1 procedure start engine with bypas plug no motty no sensor nothing except bypas plug the engine should run OK this is not my case with the plug and play. thank bruno
P.S i really think that my plug and play harnes is defective.
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posted June 29, 2009 11:57 AM
Take an ohm meter and prong both ends, meaning, match the color from one end to the other on the p/p harness. If the meter does not run to infinity, there is your broken wire in the plug/inn/play.
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posted June 29, 2009 01:49 PM
i will try it as soon as possible.bruno
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