shankrr
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posted May 05, 2009 11:06 AM
Dragpak? OEM? SPrings? Clutches
I was wondering what everyone is doing when it comes time to replace your clutches in the zx14. Is everyone sticking with OEM clutches? Has anyone used the "DRAGPAK" from Cycle concepts? and is it necessary to use stiffer springs when drag racing? I would like everyones opinion...
I currently dont have a problem, but i think after my track day i will need a new set and I want to have a heads up when i change them. Thanks
  
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Wheelie
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posted May 05, 2009 11:09 AM
I use oem.
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Shane661
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posted May 05, 2009 11:13 AM
What is the "Dragpak"?? I don't want to buy one...I just want to know what it is!!
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shankrr
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posted May 05, 2009 11:22 AM
Cycle concept sell them, one guy on pyschobike told me he uses them and they are similar to OEM but built a little stronger and last a little longer. There are alot of suzuki riders who use them in their bikes but i dont hear many people with 14s using them.... Im in between on whether i want to try them or not.
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Shane661
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posted May 05, 2009 11:25 AM
I ordered a spare oem today. I don't think there is a reason to use anything but oem...
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posted May 05, 2009 11:33 AM
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Cycle concept sell them, one guy on pyschobike told me he uses them and they are similar to OEM but built a little stronger and last a little longer. There are alot of suzuki riders who use them in their bikes but i dont hear many people with 14s using them.... Im in between on whether i want to try them or not.
Suzuki doesnt make a clutch like Kawasaki, they are always being replaced, Kawasaki builds a good clutch.
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shankrr
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posted May 05, 2009 11:34 AM
where do you get yours from? do you use stock springs/plates?
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Shane661
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posted May 05, 2009 11:36 AM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 5 May 2009 19:37
I get my oem clutchtes Schnitz Racing. I've tried Barnett Heavy, Stock, Stock w/ 3Brock Spacers, and Stock W/ 5 Spacers. I think stock w/ 3 spacers is a good setup. Not too stiff, good feel.
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06redzx14
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posted May 05, 2009 11:42 AM
my first replacement clutch was a dragpak. i liked them and they saved me money over OEM(167 tmd vs 19x tmd). their stack height is a little taller than oem which may be the reason they seem to last longer. I'm the guy from psychobike
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kawasakijockey
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posted May 05, 2009 11:45 AM
I have a Dragpack set in mine now. It seems to be working ok. It was $155 instead of $180 oem. Dont know if it is any better but it seems to be as good as the oem.
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posted May 05, 2009 11:53 AM
I'll look into getting those when the time comes....
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shankrr
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posted May 05, 2009 12:03 PM
This is good info... so far 2 people are satisfied... i may have to try the dragpak. I can always go back to OEM.
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Shane661
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posted May 05, 2009 12:05 PM
Just an FYI, stock clutches will normally last hundreds of passes...
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posted May 05, 2009 02:16 PM
Edited By: BLK ICE on 5 May 2009 22:17
I have been using drag pack for awhile now with no problems to report. I beat the hell out of clutches plus I am larger then average. They have my indorsement.
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posted May 05, 2009 02:27 PM
i'm going to be buying new clutches when i get back. 15000 miles and over 200 passes on my stock clutches have them lacking a little on the mph side. that being said, for every day riding i'm pretty sure it's impossible to hurt this things clutch.
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posted May 05, 2009 02:59 PM
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Suzuki doesnt make a clutch like Kawasaki, they are always being replaced, Kawasaki builds a good clutch.
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Nothing wrong with the Busa clutch last just as long as the 14's. One 08 that runs with me has over 200 passes on his clutch. I would highly recommend the dragpack from cyclec concepts can't beat there customer service and it's a good clutch. have one in my 14 right now.
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posted May 05, 2009 03:03 PM
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Suzuki doesnt make a clutch like Kawasaki, they are always being replaced, Kawasaki builds a good clutch.
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Nothing wrong with the Busa clutch last just as long as the 14's. One 08 that runs with me has over 200 passes on his clutch. I would highly recommend the dragpack from cyclec concepts can't beat there customer service and it's a good clutch. have one in my 14 right now.
installed a new clutch at 600 miles on my busa, when a clutch mod is used it has to be shimmed or it slips, 800+ miles it was beginning to chattering, maybe it was just mine
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posted May 05, 2009 03:09 PM
Well My 08 had 190 passes before the turbo made it go out, another buddy is at 150 passes with no clutch mod or heavy springs and he's the one that just went 9.23. the bike I said has 200 plus runs is riding by a 290 lb guy. Busa clutch is every bit as good as the 14. don't believe all the hype saying you need a clutch mod to launch a busa. I just rode that wrecked 08 we put together that has 4600 miles on to a 9.44 stock wheelbase with 100% bone stock clutch. And the guy that owns it made 20 runs in 2 1/2 hours friday night. I say you had some other issue. And my 06 14 clutch lasted 187 passes but my new 06 lasted 26 runs and was shot. I'm hoping the guy i bought the bike from just did not no how to ride. I've never lost a clutch that soon.
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posted May 05, 2009 03:12 PM
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Well My 08 had 190 passes before the turbo made it go out, another buddy is at 150 passes with no clutch mod or heavy springs and he's the one that just went 9.23. the bike I said has 200 plus runs is riding by a 290 lb guy. Busa clutch is every bit as good as the 14. don't believe all the hype saying you need a clutch mod to launch a busa. I just rode that wrecked 08 we put together that has 4600 miles on to a 9.44 stock wheelbase with 100% bone stock clutch. And the guy that owns it made 20 runs in 2 1/2 hours friday night. I say you had some other issue. And my 06 14 clutch lasted 187 passes but my new 06 lasted 26 runs and was shot. I'm hoping the guy i bought the bike from just did not no how to ride. I've never lost a clutch that soon.
are you leaving at 6500 with no clutch mod?
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posted May 05, 2009 03:25 PM
A Brock's Performance Clutch Mod (modified stock or Ultra) is required for **ANY** Hayabusa ** EVER** launched from a dead stop! Damage to the stock machine can occur if repeatedly launched in stock form!
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shankrr
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posted May 05, 2009 03:29 PM
06Red,Kawasakijockey, blkice... Thanks for the input... I'm going to give the dragpak a try.
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posted May 05, 2009 03:48 PM
got a buddy named vince hill here that's stretched 6" with 18/47 gearing, brocks smeg, bazzaz, shinko u-soft, race gas, and he weighs in at around 240 lbs suited. 100% bone stock clutch with over 200 passes on it and still runs 6.0's @ 119 all day long in shitty air. There's nothing wrong with the 08 busas clutch.
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posted May 05, 2009 03:53 PM
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got a buddy named vince hill here that's stretched 6" with 18/47 gearing, brocks smeg, bazzaz, shinko u-soft, race gas, and he weighs in at around 240 lbs suited. 100% bone stock clutch with over 200 passes on it and still runs 6.0's @ 119 all day long in shitty air. There's nothing wrong with the 08 busas clutch.
does he leave @ 6500 rpm?
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posted May 05, 2009 03:53 PM
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06Red,Kawasakijockey, blkice... Thanks for the input... .
...but FVCK the rest of you!!! 
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posted May 05, 2009 03:56 PM
he leaves pretty high, but i'm not sure that he leaves at 6500. I know he leaves high enough to carry the front tire a good ways down the track and net 1.40's
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