Ninja_Knight

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posted April 19, 2009 06:57 AM
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So, my bike was in the shop not too long ago and now my paint feels like sand paper. I bought Mother's Cleaner/Wax and that did it a little bit but not much. I was told to try Mother's Clay Bar and that would knock it out. Do you guru's have a better idea? The Clay Bar is almost twenty freaking dollars but I want to get this crap out of my paint.
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posted April 19, 2009 07:03 AM
What I would do is use the guys head , even if it doesnt get it off you will feel better and he wont **** with your bike again !
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posted April 19, 2009 07:05 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Apr 2009 15:06
I don't see how it can be "in" your paint? I would use the softest cleanser, warm water, and a gentle cloth on it. Get the grit off of the surface, rather than rubbing/grinding it further into the paint.
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posted April 19, 2009 07:08 AM
use the clay bar, it comes with a big bottle of detailer, and you can use it many times. The paint will be slick, I use it when needed.
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posted April 19, 2009 07:12 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Apr 2009 15:15
Here is some info on the clay bar, seems like an ok product..although I don't like the sounds of "some of your car's paint color" showing up on the clay. That would seemingly indicate it has went through the clear coat:
http://www.customrodder.com/tech/0409cr_mothers_clay_bar_review/
All I could picture was you "waxing" the grit further into the paint.
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zxbob

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posted April 19, 2009 07:25 AM
The clay bars work bitchen ..... If that dont get it you might want to get it buffed out
by someone who paints, WTF got in or on the paint anyway ?
Bob
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Ninja_Knight

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posted April 19, 2009 07:54 AM
quote: The clay bars work bitchen ..... If that dont get it you might want to get it buffed out
by someone who paints, WTF got in or on the paint anyway ?
Bob
I wish I knew. the bike was in his shop for a week and when i got it back it felt like sand paper to the touch. i tried using Plexus and that did NOTHING, so i bought Mother's Cleaner/Wax which did VERY LITTLE. I was told by the guy who works on my bike to use the clay bar but I am still po'ed that my bike came back in that condition. I figured I'd ask you guys before buying it.
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posted April 19, 2009 07:56 AM
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quote: The clay bars work bitchen ..... If that dont get it you might want to get it buffed out
by someone who paints, WTF got in or on the paint anyway ?
Bob
I wish I knew. the bike was in his shop for a week and when i got it back it felt like sand paper to the touch. i tried using Plexus and that did NOTHING, so i bought Mother's Cleaner/Wax which did VERY LITTLE. I was told by the guy who works on my bike to use the clay bar but I am still po'ed that my bike came back in that condition. I figured I'd ask you guys before buying it.
If you do get it, report back. If it does go through the clear (if you get your paint color on the clay), I'd like to avoid the product.
Thanks!
Shane
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posted April 19, 2009 08:08 AM
Sounds like someone was using a grinder beside your bike, and the hot metal was hitting the bike, grinding and arc flash from welding will pit glass permanently too.
I would be speaking about small claims court with the manager myself.
They can get replacement parts for 2/3 what they sell them for.
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posted April 19, 2009 09:18 AM
quote: Sounds like someone was using a grinder beside your bike, and the hot metal was hitting the bike, grinding and arc flash from welding will pit glass permanently too.
I would be speaking about small claims court with the manager myself.
They can get replacement parts for 2/3 what they sell them for.
Yep some ass was doing metal work in the shop and sprayed your bike.
take it to there insurance and see if they will fix it for you.
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posted April 19, 2009 10:31 AM
quote:
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quote: The clay bars work bitchen ..... If that dont get it you might want to get it buffed out
by someone who paints, WTF got in or on the paint anyway ?
Bob
I wish I knew. the bike was in his shop for a week and when i got it back it felt like sand paper to the touch. i tried using Plexus and that did NOTHING, so i bought Mother's Cleaner/Wax which did VERY LITTLE. I was told by the guy who works on my bike to use the clay bar but I am still po'ed that my bike came back in that condition. I figured I'd ask you guys before buying it.
If you do get it, report back. If it does go through the clear (if you get your paint color on the clay), I'd like to avoid the product.
Thanks!
Shane
Claybar will not go thru the clearcoat, it is what its called, its a piece of clay, it will pickup any debris on the paint, you will be amazed at what the paint feels like after using it.
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Shane661

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posted April 19, 2009 10:41 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Apr 2009 18:44
I was only going by what I read in the review of the product:
"You'll know the clay's working the first time you flip the piece over and find it slowly turning from yellow to brown (with a hint of your car's color).
Maybe they used it improperly? At any rate, sounds like rave reviews from the guys here.
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posted April 19, 2009 03:48 PM
sounds like overspray to me
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posted April 19, 2009 03:52 PM
Quickly, what is on your paint is called fallout. If the shop is near a train track you will get metal dust pariticals or even in the shop when they cut rotors or blow off brake dust it settles on the paint and with humidity sticks to the paint. CLAY BAR that SOB.
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posted April 19, 2009 09:33 PM
if the pitting is raised its likely fallout or overspray, if its "into" the surface, its likley burned in from hot metal....
Good luck.
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posted April 19, 2009 10:00 PM
The clay works great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEfLGL59GI
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posted April 20, 2009 03:00 AM
Edited By: Beondwacko on 20 Apr 2009 11:01
quote: Sounds like someone was using a grinder beside your bike, and the hot metal was hitting the bike, grinding and arc flash from welding will pit glass permanently too.
That or it could be overspray from another job. That happened to me in my garage 15 feet away from where I started with a rattle can no less. If it's just overspray, the clay bar will make it nicey nice again.
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posted April 20, 2009 04:42 AM
quote: sounds like overspray to me
+1
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Ninja_Knight

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posted April 20, 2009 11:20 AM
Thanks everyone. I bought the Mother's Clay Bar on my way to work this morning and I am going to try it tomorrow before work. After reading what you guys said about the metal overspray I called my mechanic this morning to make sure this was not going to have a lasting effect on my ride, and he assured me that it wouldn't, and that the clay bar will make my bike smooth guaranteed. He also mentioned that if for whatever reason I have problems then i should bring the bike and clay bar to him and he will do it for me. I plan to buy some wax for it as well.
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posted April 20, 2009 12:21 PM
after using it, put the clay bar in a small container for later use
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posted April 21, 2009 08:17 AM
quote: after using it, put the clay bar in a small container for later use
wee
I think it comes with its own little soap dish case which is cool. If it works well on my bike I think I might try it on my car as well.
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posted April 21, 2009 12:08 PM
quote:
quote: after using it, put the clay bar in a small container for later use
wee
I think it comes with its own little soap dish case which is cool. If it works well on my bike I think I might try it on my car as well.
wash your car real good before using it
wee
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