eklipse636
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posted April 12, 2009 04:52 PM
water wetter
This past week I changed the fluid and went back with 1/3 antifreeze and 2/3 water, with half a bottle of water wetter. Me and my girlfriend and a few other people went for a ride sat, and I was very disappointed in how hot the zx14 ran. On a 72 deg day, just cruising at 60mph, after it warming up it never ran below (or above) 3 bars. Is this normal for u guys? I thought that was high for such a cool day, and not for giving it hell..
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Shane661
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posted April 12, 2009 04:55 PM
Did you get all of the air out of the system?
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eklipse636
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posted April 12, 2009 05:37 PM
i ran it for a while and the level never went down in the overflow tank... was there a trick that i missed?
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Shane661
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posted April 12, 2009 05:39 PM
I usually run them for a little bit without the cap, just to burp any air out...
Someone can probably add to this....
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Old Guy
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posted April 12, 2009 06:13 PM
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I usually run them for a little bit without the cap, just to burp any air out...
Someone can probably add to this....
Yup, gotta do it.
My dirt bikes were especially able to trap air.
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eklipse636
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posted April 12, 2009 06:21 PM
i have to leave tomorrow to go to north crolina, then wisconsin, and i will be home next weekend, so i will take the cap back off and see if i can get some more air out. thanks
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smokinZX14
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posted April 12, 2009 06:37 PM
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This past week I changed the fluid and went back with 1/3 antifreeze and 2/3 water, with half a bottle of water wetter. Me and my girlfriend and a few other people went for a ride sat, and I was very disappointed in how hot the zx14 ran. On a 72 deg day, just cruising at 60mph, after it warming up it never ran below (or above) 3 bars. Is this normal for u guys? I thought that was high for such a cool day, and not for giving it hell..
Ok here is the skinny on water wetter ... Works best with water only ...... Even still water wetter will not make it run much cooler but it will take longer to warm up and will cool down faster than just water alone ... antifreeze/ coolant is an oxymoron ....With antifreeze 50/50 with water will run hotter than just water alone .. Just use distilled water and the water wetter , that will give you the best cooling ....If you live in where it gets cold keep the antifreeze in ..
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bigdtd
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posted April 12, 2009 07:34 PM
your experience is normal, i use engine ice(it is all pre-mixed) and like smokin says it takes longer to get warm and cools off faster, but to be honest 3 bars is norm. my bike runs coolest when i am pushing the pace (going fast) and warmest at lower speeds. never has it overheated but it gets warmer and stays warm in stop and go and at lower in town speeds. it runs coolest around 70-90 mph-ish.
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posted April 12, 2009 07:42 PM
Has anyone tried the Evans NPG+ stuff?
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posted April 12, 2009 07:50 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 13 Apr 2009 03:53
3 bars is ok...normal.
5 bars is approx 200f which is not bad. the gauge is deceptive.
Blinks "hot "at ~215.
zx10 fender is a great mod for it too though.
also I run it warm with no cap and squeeze the large coolant lines to help burp it, then top off the rad and check the resevoir, run it hard and high rpms6000+ rpm, 10 seconds at a time for 1 minute total, for a short ride, then check the resevoir again.
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posted April 13, 2009 04:42 AM
Tip: Leave the cap off the radiator, with the engine warmed up and running blip the throttle. You will see the coolant level go down some as you blip it and it will belch the trapped air. Refill to full, Repeat this process until the coolant level doesn't drop and you can't add any more. Replace radiator cap kill engine and fill your overflow tank to the proper level. The overflow tubing between the radiator and the resevoir tank will have some air in it but this minor amount will be eliminated/resolved eventually with some normal riding.
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eklipse636
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posted April 13, 2009 04:50 AM
when i said it was 3 bars, ita actually at 4, (one above the half way mark). and just takin it easy it has never been that high. when i get home i will take the cap back off and see if there is anymore air in it. thanks for the info
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Silver08
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posted April 13, 2009 07:31 AM
what temp does the fan kick on at, if 5 bars is 200?
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posted April 13, 2009 09:51 AM
I used a whole bottle of WW in my bike, with the rest 50/50 mix, seems to take longer to warm up but runs about the same temp. And make sure you get the air out, or it will run hot every time.
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