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posted April 09, 2009 08:56 PM
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Smokin,
Do you know what the v-max did in the 1/8mile?
Most runs were low 6.50s @ 108 .. Vic runs were also low 6.50s .. Vic lighter weight and blip shifting got him a little better ET than me ... I use the clutch on my shifts ..
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posted April 09, 2009 09:21 PM
well, that tells us a few things.
1. badmax is completely full of shit about outrunning busas lol.
2. imtoofast is a retard with a big mouth
3. yamaha fucked it away with technology
4. in the right hands it could beat a shitty rider on a big bike
5. it did exactly what we all knew it would do
6. dale walker did an accurate write up.
good riding lee and thanks for the good info as always.
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posted April 09, 2009 09:38 PM
So what did mr bad max have to say after what you ran? Is this the same bad max?
ZX14mike you did not list any mph so you are DQ'd LOL
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posted April 09, 2009 09:40 PM
Yeah I think your spot on Bawis.............I love the looks of the VMAX.............might very well own one someday.................BUT Yamaha should have made it way lighter and way faster. if it were 200 pounds lighter and had 20-30 more horsepower with the same styling it would be a MUCH more interesting option..........and could better justify its price.
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posted April 09, 2009 09:43 PM
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So what did mr bad max have to say after what you ran? Is this the same bad max?
ZX14mike you did not list any mph so you are DQ'd LOL
I know, I was going to update that post and estimate 139MPH but smoking posted the results right before I did................LOL
Like Bawis said the VMAX performed exactly like most of us expected it to.
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posted April 09, 2009 10:01 PM
Yup low 10's with two very above average and light riders. so most guys will go 10.50's to to 10.80's stock.
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posted April 10, 2009 03:58 AM
Great write up Smokin...
Fish - this thread needs to be book marked at the top of a V-MAX forum...that way we can easily reference it when these guys start tossing out all this bs.
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posted April 10, 2009 04:21 AM
Ah this is where everyone is. LOL Was fun seeing that big bohemith run down the track. Both Lee and Victory tried their best to get it into the 9's but just wasn't happening last night.
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posted April 10, 2009 04:52 AM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 10 Apr 2009 12:56
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So what did mr bad max have to say after what you ran? Is this the same bad max?
ZX14mike you did not list any mph so you are DQ'd LOL
Really he was very happy about the numbers .. It made his day when i took out a 09 Busa twice ..People at the track were impressed with the bike , even little Vic wanted to get one for a street bike ..
Oh Bad_Max did say after seeing my first 9.30 pass " I see we will not be beating any strapped and pipe zx14s, the zx14 is one bad bike "
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posted April 10, 2009 04:57 AM
good job lee, i worked late and couln't make it. the vmax is a cool bike, lots of grunt but it needs some help up top and in the weight dept. it is user friendly, you can wick the throttle in 1st gear and it will just spin the tire, if you tried that on the 14 it would flip! i'm glad you got a chance to ride it at the track. i thought it shifted better with no clutch.
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posted April 10, 2009 04:57 AM
What does Vic weigh?
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posted April 10, 2009 05:05 AM
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What does Vic weigh?
I think he is around 130 to 135. He's put on a little gut this past year. If I remember right, I think he said he was down to 125lbs in 2007 when he took the chamionship.
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posted April 10, 2009 06:56 AM
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What does Vic weigh?
I think he is around 130 to 135. He's put on a little gut this past year. If I remember right, I think he said he was down to 125lbs in 2007 when he took the chamionship.
Lee mentioned something about the "fly by wire" throttle perhaps having a less-than-positive effect. I am starting to think there may be more to this than the weight...
My 14 was about 525 lbs, and me about 230 lbs. suited when it went a 1.49 60 ft, at 64". And I am not a fast guy. Lee on the Max is about 100 lbs. more....that should, in itself, not make .2 difference in 60 ft. The bike has pretty low gearing, more power, and is longer than the 14...
Let me put it this way...dropping 100 lbs. off of the bike would put it at where I was, weight-wise with the 14. And at that length and weight it should be able to go high 1.3's...over .3 quicker in the 60 foot. There has to be something more to it than the weight.
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posted April 10, 2009 07:06 AM
Edited By: bigdtd on 10 Apr 2009 15:07
actually the gearing in first gear on the vmax feels tall to me, don't know about the final drive ratio
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posted April 10, 2009 07:09 AM
.. It made his day when i took out a 09 Busa twice .."
just gave him a false impression ..
i just want to know how you went from 8.70's to 9.30's on your zx14 .. clutch hand getting old..
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posted April 10, 2009 07:12 AM
lee can answer for himself but the times he is running right now are stock wheelbase, the 8.70s were stretched, fyi you need to pay attention 
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posted April 10, 2009 07:23 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 10 Apr 2009 15:24
bawyamahahaha ..that explains its ..
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posted April 10, 2009 07:31 AM
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Shane you are forgetting the max is a shaft drive. I can assume that you have never driven a shaft drive bike? They are a devil to launch because the shaft twists up the power, causing the front to feel like its pushing down while the back feels like its trying to climb up. It's really hard to explain, but imagine this: you nail the gas in first gear and it feels like a giant is trying to push the front tire to the back tire, with the bike taco'ing up in the middle. Totally kills traction and the friction of the CV's under that kind of load are sucking up the power. Getting down to a 1.3 60ft will require more than just a stickier tire. Probably require a entirely new CV joints and gears in the differential, alot with major shock stiffening, pinion angle adjustments, and possibly a conversion to a single CV jointed axle/torque tube. Unless its already a single...
Edit: cant donate my $5 to Bikeland. No linky! And I'm not buying a $21 dollar hat, either! You cheap bastard Fish, how about supporting the economic recovery and lowering them prices!
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posted April 10, 2009 07:41 AM
I'm sure the fly by wire has a lot to do with it. It's probably acting a lot like the secondaries on the 14. The ECU only allows the fly's to open so fast so people don't kill themselves. Victor tired launching the bike at 8K and it just went into a bog. He lowered the RPMs allowing the TQ to do the work and it went faster.
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posted April 10, 2009 07:42 AM
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Shane you are forgetting the max is a shaft drive. I can assume that you have never driven a shaft drive bike?
I know the Vmax is a shaft drive, and I have ridden plenty of shaft drive bikes. Also, it has been noted that wheelspin in the 60 ft. was not an issue.
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posted April 10, 2009 11:29 AM
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.. It made his day when i took out a 09 Busa twice .."
just gave him a false impression ..
i just want to know how you went from 8.70's to 9.30's on your zx14 .. clutch hand getting old..
8.70s was 62 inches long, air shifted , race fuel, air filter removed, geared, shinko U soft , Ect ... 9.30s were a Pipe NO P/C , STOCK wheel base , stock air filter , stock gears , 87 pump gas, stock tire .....Get the picture ?
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posted April 10, 2009 11:46 AM
9.30's the green one?
Ive seen the red at BMP before......
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posted April 10, 2009 11:52 AM
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9.30's the green one?
Ive seen the red at BMP before......
yup my green 09 zx14 ... 
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posted April 10, 2009 12:09 PM
It's great that you got to get out there and do some real testing Lee. Good write-ups. And it's really quite cool that badmax let you and Vic beat up on his machine for the test. Good thread.
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posted April 10, 2009 01:56 PM
So does Bad Max still wanna race now that he knows what the machine will do........ I wish I could catch him for 1 of his "Roll Ons"
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