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posted March 23, 2009 08:55 PM
Cheaper synthetic oil/filter
I'm doing my first course of full synthetic oil and the Ninja seems to like it a lot. The legendary Kawasaki Klunk is now a smart CLACK. Shifting is smooth and I noticed an instant softening of the engine noise once the new oil circulated. I wish I would have paid more attention to how the bike sounded before dumping that winter storage crap out.
I used Repsol Moto 4T Racing oil 10W-40 and it cost an arm & a leg at the dealership. Can I get the same performance from a cheaper synthetic oil? I see Mobil 1 Racing oil at the auto supply for a lot less. Also, is there a cheaper but as good or better filter that I could pick up at the auto supply?
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posted March 23, 2009 09:14 PM
At the auto stores, you can get mobil 1 4t racing syn for a little under $10 a quart. Good stuff, but I've been running Shell Rotella T 5w-40 synthetic and it's great stuff. Costs $20 for a gallon at walmart, and it doesn't have the friction modifiers in it that can make motorcycle wet clutches slip. It's a great oil because it has a high nickle content which engines love (but if you're still running you cats, don't use rotella).
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posted March 23, 2009 09:19 PM
 Edited By: ZX11D on 24 Mar 2009 05:22
Mobil 1 Racing 4T is your brew. I use 3.5 Qt. 10W-40 and 1 Qt. 20W-50 here in So.Cal.
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posted March 23, 2009 11:05 PM
NAPA 1358 oil filter. Dont know the Wix number. Thats who makes Napa's filters.
Ran the Rotella S for 18,500 miles. Clean stuff.
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posted March 24, 2009 12:06 AM
me doing good with PETRONAS full syn...much better compare to MOTUL @ TOTAL..
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posted March 24, 2009 04:28 AM
Rotella T in my bikes, cars and lawn mowers !
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posted March 24, 2009 05:03 AM
rotella syn here!
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posted March 24, 2009 05:22 AM
"I used Repsol Moto 4T Racing oil 10W-40" I used that same oil in my zx14 and for some reason my bike was going through about 3/4 to 1Qt every 1500 miles.. I made a switch to Royal Purple Max cycle 20 50 and im not seeing any useage now..
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posted March 24, 2009 05:22 AM
ZXBob recommended Red LIne 10W-40 and I tried it last summer.
I've never before experienced such a huge difference from an oil change-
the bike was much smoother!
The oil before it in my bike was the Rotella T.
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posted March 24, 2009 05:35 AM
Rotella T Syn here, Kaw filter
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posted March 24, 2009 10:26 AM
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ZXBob recommended Red LIne 10W-40 and I tried it last summer.
I've never before experienced such a huge difference from an oil change-
the bike was much smoother!
The oil before it in my bike was the Rotella T.
Redline is hard to find local. Do have a link for a site and which Redline ?
I use Redline products in my ZF 6 speed and rear end gears in my Vette.
One hour drive to purchase Redline off the shelf.
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posted March 24, 2009 10:41 AM
Try redlines web site. Theres dealers that ship.
That reminds Me I was going to try Amsoil after reading their web site.
They make a 4 stroke oil for bikes.
Took apart a Kawi filter after break in. They are junk. K&N, Wix. just about anything other than that POS.
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posted March 25, 2009 07:15 AM
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Took apart a Kawi filter after break in. They are junk. K&N, Wix. just about anything other than that POS.
what's so bad about the kawi filters? i thought they work pretty well.
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posted March 25, 2009 07:36 AM
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Try redlines web site. Theres dealers that ship.
That reminds Me I was going to try Amsoil after reading their web site.
They make a 4 stroke oil for bikes.
Took apart a Kawi filter after break in. They are junk. K&N, Wix. just about anything other than that POS.
I luv AMSOIL myself
Bike runs smoother, shift better, and clutch is smoother too...
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posted March 25, 2009 07:46 AM
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At the auto stores, you can get mobil 1 4t racing syn for a little under $10 a quart. Good stuff, but I've been running Shell Rotella T 5w-40 synthetic and it's great stuff. Costs $20 for a gallon at walmart, and it doesn't have the friction modifiers in it that can make motorcycle wet clutches slip. It's a great oil because it has a high nickle content which engines love (but if you're still running you cats, don't use rotella).
Help me out here. My bike is still stock. Why should I not run Rotella? Got me worried. Have 2500 miles on the Rotella at the moment. 
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posted March 25, 2009 08:01 AM
Edited By: S A Kruz on 25 Mar 2009 16:04
I got over 30,000 miles on Rotella T synthetic. What are you worried about? He was talking about the additive package effecting your catalysts. If you have aftermarket pipes you have no worries mate.
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posted March 26, 2009 11:58 AM
That's my point. It's still stock.
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posted March 26, 2009 12:01 PM
Ya, if you like your cats, spare them the zinc that is in rotella t. Zinc will eat up your cats.
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posted March 26, 2009 02:26 PM
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"I used Repsol Moto 4T Racing oil 10W-40" I used that same oil in my zx14 and for some reason my bike was going through about 3/4 to 1Qt every 1500 miles.. I made a switch to Royal Purple Max cycle 20 50 and im not seeing any useage now..
Glad I got extra.
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posted March 26, 2009 02:31 PM
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Ya, if you like your cats, spare them the zinc that is in rotella t. Zinc will eat up your cats.
I hate my cats but I would like to always have the option of returning the bike to stock after modding.
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posted March 26, 2009 02:36 PM
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Took apart a Kawi filter after break in. They are junk. K&N, Wix. just about anything other than that POS.
I still have all 5 of my Kaw filters all numbered in a row. Have not cut open #1 to look yet. I did see shearings in the first oil change and perhaps the second, also. That's cool though - everyone has that. Should be some in the filter too - I hope.
Thanks for responses everyone.
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posted March 26, 2009 02:37 PM
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Took apart a Kawi filter after break in. They are junk. K&N, Wix. just about anything other than that POS.
what's so bad about the kawi filters? i thought they work pretty well.
Don't know the answer to that but I thought I'd just take the opportunity to say hi to an old forum member. HI REEVES!
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posted March 26, 2009 02:49 PM
what's up rook? how's the bachelor's life treating you? : )
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posted March 26, 2009 04:29 PM
Been running Kawi filters for THOUSANDS of passes between my ZX-12 and ZX-14, no issues ever.
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posted March 26, 2009 04:35 PM
Edited By: Rook on 27 Mar 2009 00:37
^^Don't know quite yet. Wouldn't mind meeting a girl who likes to ride! LOL
Lots of people will find this totally bizzar but I am still living with my wife and I plan to stick around until June. I like being around the two kids and I know that is going to change a little bit soon. Even weirder, I plan to rent an apartment on the corner 1/2 block away. I know it will work well for the kids and I know I'm going to be doing lots of home repairs for the X. I imagine things will just get stranger when/if new relationships develop but I can deal with some pretty unconventional ways of life. I think the kids will be fine as long as the grownups don't fight. The X and I are doing as well as can be expected considering all the stress. No more fighting, lots of anxiety.
I am waiting to hear about new job (teaching). I think I'm hired - pass the drug test and you're in MPS - LOL. It's not in my area of certification but I can handle it. Plan to get a second bike (busa, liter???) and dreaming of building something totally NOT street friendly. Keeping the 14 as drag bike and main riding bike. Plan to hit drag strip this summer........That is if I'm not too broke. LOL.
Thanks for asking. Talk to you later.
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