Newf14
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posted March 03, 2009 12:00 PM
It isnt extreamly hot where I live but I have never had trouble with the bike around town on hot days. I see no need to add an extra fan on my bike personally.
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smokinZX14
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posted March 03, 2009 06:39 PM
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We all know you hated the zx14 from day one and it's getting a bit old hearing it all the time ..
??? Give me a break   ....
right... hey... I hear they're handing out free crack just down the street .. you might want to go and get some cuz your pipe's empty
as for the print mags... well ... I guess they're better at doing what they are told than bikeland is.
He flips me the bird and calls me a crack head .....Real nice ..
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Ninja14
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posted March 03, 2009 07:13 PM
Facts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_CL_xh1Ilg&feature=related
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FastestBusaAround
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posted March 03, 2009 07:44 PM
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unlike fish i have owned a zx-14 for three years and over ten thousand miles. not once have i had an overheating issue and i live in steamy florida. i know half a dozen other guys first hand with zx-14s that have never had an over heat problem, ever. somehow fish riding in full black leathers in the hot desert ......................saw a mirage........
Not exactly so - my 06 had 20k KM's and ran cool all the time, but my 08 runs hot all the time. For some reason, these bikes are not consistent when it comes to heat management.
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SteveWFL
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posted March 03, 2009 07:50 PM
One thing Florida ZX14s have in common, not a single one of 'em run hot with 1 fan 
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted March 03, 2009 07:55 PM
I might have wanted a 2nd fan when my pretty Red was brand new cause she ran way too hot back then! But not now , even prolonged idling the fan cycles on and off and keeps her cool just fine. Seems not all 14's are created equal in the heat department. The Blue one i ride likes to run hot but never over heats...
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fish_antlers
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posted March 03, 2009 08:15 PM
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He flips me the bird and calls me a crack head .....Real nice ..
hey... you asked for it... saying shit like that about me, what did you expect? a hug?
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smokinZX14
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posted March 03, 2009 08:26 PM
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He flips me the bird and calls me a crack head .....Real nice ..
hey... you asked for it... saying shit like that about me, what did you expect? a hug?
Never called you any names ..So what the did i say about you ? Saying your long term test was not a long term test is saying shit about you ? I don't need this shit ,I'm done here... Do me a favor ban me ....
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fish_antlers
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posted March 03, 2009 08:29 PM
 Edited By: fish_antlers on 4 Mar 2009 04:38
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Never called you any names ..So what the did i say about you ?
Did you lend someone your login and you didn't write this...
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We all know you hated the zx14 from day one and it's getting a bit old hearing it all the time ..
I've put a hell of a lot of time and effort into this bike and specifically this community and I really really really resent that statement as it's an utter and total lie 
I hate the zx-14 so that's why I own zx-14.com sure.. that makes a fuck of a lot of sense.
And no, we don't ban people... you'll have to go see Greg for that
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LAB3
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posted March 03, 2009 08:37 PM
Damn this site is starting to look like lasbausa.org.No Thin Skin Allowed. I am trying to learn about up grades on my ZX-14 not see the finger being thrown around. Fish that Busa site has rubbed off on you. If you disagree, fix the PM and you two go at it.
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fish_antlers
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posted March 03, 2009 08:55 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 4 Mar 2009 05:01
I actually thought it was a pretty polite response to him...
I mean, come on... log in to ZX-14.com and tell everyone the owner of the site has hated the bike since day one? He got off easy...
I'd like to see him log in to a corvette forum, or a helicopter forum, or pick any forum and say the same thing to their respective owners and see how they react ! 
this isn't rocket science!
(fyi his "i'm done" topic has been moved to the smackhouse where it can morph into whatever it needs to)
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Bawls
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posted March 03, 2009 08:55 PM
My bike handled texas to san diego in late june with temps in the 125+ degree range and never got above 1 bar from the top (stop and go included). Definitely sounds like some bikes just run hotter than others.
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SteveWFL
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posted March 03, 2009 09:13 PM
Edited By: SteveWFL on 4 Mar 2009 05:18
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One thing Florida ZX14s have in common, not a single one of 'em run hot with 1 fan
Lets look at the record. In scorching Florida zero ZX14's overheat. Not one.
FL Members with ZX14's:
bigdtd
strokerZX14 (bigdtd's friend)
fifty-thousand
leovincezx14
Xstatic
Smokinzx14 (two ZX14s)
My old bike
tonytooth
and the many I'm forgetting plus my neighbors.
I keep hearing about the Zx14's running hot, perhaps I could go up north where its frigid to find evidence this phenomenon?
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LAB3
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posted March 03, 2009 09:18 PM
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I actually thought it was a pretty polite response to him...
I mean, come on... log in to ZX-14.com and tell everyone the owner of the site has hated the bike since day one? He got off easy...
I'd like to see him log in to a corvette forum, or a helicopter forum, or pick any forum and say the same thing to their respective owners and see how they react !
this isn't rocket science!
He did get off easy compaired to that Busa site...:-) but hey Smokin is Not DP...you know what I am talking about.I will Be glad when the PM is fixed as I would have PM this and another comment I made about what and how you post to the members. As you do ride a fine line as you are not just a member here and what You post reflects every thing the site is.
Information on our ZX-14. :-) I hope this site does Not turn into a "Lets bait Someone and
see if I can Piss them off site"
I read your Long term article and I did not think you were out to slam the ZX-14 on purpose
but I have seen a Busa get Hot here in Texas too.
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fish_antlers
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posted March 03, 2009 09:27 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 4 Mar 2009 05:41
We had it with two bikes in SoCal, and one in the interior of BC/ Canada (the "Okanagan" which is actually a desert... same temps as in California - high 90's, low 100's)... heck steve.. your fishing me back into this topic!
Regardless... it would be great to see this addressed in a new model... really IMHO this discussion should never need to take place because this should have been engineered out of the bike. No one should be able to post up and say "that happened to me too" ... not even one member... just my 2$ werth.
LAB3 ... this wont degenerate into anything near the style of the other site... don't worry...
I hear ya, but I have little / no control over the PMs.. freek is swamped with real/paying work so it's on the back burner...
anyways... it's good to have this topic out in the open... if it does nothing for the majority, that's fine, but if it helps the few members that could get stuck from the heat, then it's served its purpose. An ounce of prevention on this bike can really help, and since I hate delays and enjoy riding, it's a bit of piece of mind well spent.
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LAB3
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posted March 03, 2009 09:42 PM
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One thing Florida ZX14s have in common, not a single one of 'em run hot with 1 fan
Lets look at the record. In scorching Florida zero ZX14's overheat. Not one.
FL Members with ZX14's:
bigdtd
strokerZX14 (bigdtd's friend)
fifty-thousand
leovincezx14
Xstatic
Smokinzx14 (two ZX14s)
My old bike
tonytooth
and the many I'm forgetting plus my neighbors.
I keep hearing about the Zx14's running hot, perhaps I could go up north where its frigid to find evidence this phenomenon?
Here in the DFW area the Texas heat will be in the 100 plus for weeks during the summer and if you have driven in stop and go traffic going to work in Dallas it takes 90 minutes of stop and go traffic. Does Florida get this Hot for several months ina row during summer?
Before I got my ZX-14 several months ago I saw a New ZX-14 on the side of the road with all the cooliant under it, and same for a Busa here and my Corvette does not like this Hot weather after a hour and a half on moving parking lot trying to get home from work. High compression engine's need more cooling IMO. I will Never ride my ZX in work traffic it's not worth the risk. My 1998 ZX9R got hot here one summer. Welcome to Hot Ass Texas.
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SteveWFL
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posted March 03, 2009 09:50 PM
"Does Florida get this Hot for several months ina row during summer?"
Yes of course it does. And Phoenix, AZ where Tool Man rides his.... lol nevermind
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Ninja_Knight
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posted March 03, 2009 10:02 PM
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One thing Florida ZX14s have in common, not a single one of 'em run hot with 1 fan
Lets look at the record. In scorching Florida zero ZX14's overheat. Not one.
FL Members with ZX14's:
bigdtd
strokerZX14 (bigdtd's friend)
fifty-thousand
leovincezx14
Xstatic
Smokinzx14 (two ZX14s)
My old bike
tonytooth
and the many I'm forgetting plus my neighbors.
I keep hearing about the Zx14's running hot, perhaps I could go up north where its frigid to find evidence this phenomenon?
You can add my Florida butt to this list, but I am still running Engine Ice, installing a Muzzy fan and attaching it to a PMR switch JUST IN CASE!
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SteveWFL
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posted March 03, 2009 10:22 PM
Edited By: SteveWFL on 4 Mar 2009 06:23
Ninja_Knight, after seeing this thread I'd be scared too!!!!!
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LAB3
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posted March 03, 2009 10:27 PM
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"Does Florida get this Hot for several months ina row during summer?"
Yes of course it does. And Phoenix, AZ where Tool Man rides his.... lol nevermind
100 plus degrees every day for months in a row during the summer?? And drive in the Dallas to Fort Worth Traffic, one wreck and you are just moving a car length every few minutes.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Your right..Never Mind, I have a second fan coming just in case.
Ride Safe and Cool. :-)
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LAB3
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posted March 03, 2009 10:31 PM
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Ninja_Knight, after seeing this thread I'd be scared too!!!!!
It was not this thread but Fish's experience on the ZX-14 article he wrote. That got me to looking for a second fan.
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zxbob
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posted March 04, 2009 04:29 AM
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Does anyone have any experience with the ZX-14 second fan kit that can be found at
https://www.zx14.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=480&osCsid=5vp50f83o97po3ot8j9o9o9sc5
Wow .... what a great thread. (and here's help with the link)
My experence with the 14 is that "mine" has never overheated ..... ever !
Prior to the turbo I had done the ZX-10 fender. I spent many miles on the 405 in
traffic or going down PCH on the weekends and there was allways plenty of traffic.
Never a heating issue with my bike.
When I did my turbo kit, I adapted a a second fan of a CBR 600 to handle any
possibility of a heating issue due to the turbo .... still no problem. I understand
what Fish is saying about Bikeland test, but living here in So. Cal and my riding
on some pretty hot summer days has never been an issue for me.
Bob
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Shane661
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posted March 04, 2009 04:35 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 4 Mar 2009 12:35
The 14 has been out for four years now. Apparently they are no longer the overheating, oil guzzling bikes that you tested, Fish.
Maybe a "long term" report on a pre-production bike doesn't show the full picture...
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AZ ZX14
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posted March 04, 2009 04:59 AM
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"Does Florida get this Hot for several months ina row during summer?"
Yes of course it does. And Phoenix, AZ where Tool Man rides his.... lol nevermind
Please don't speak for other areas. I'm in Phoenix riding in 115 degrees. Only experienced over heating in very heavy backed up traffic traffic.
Why did Kawi feel it necessary to put the sencond fan on the Concours? Same displacement/ radiator, not as much power but more cooling. Hmmmmm.
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BobC
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posted March 04, 2009 06:16 AM
Ok, so some bikes have overheated and spewed coolant and others have not.
Have Kawasaki changed anything since 2006 that would affect this? The catalytic converter for example.
I think the bikes are simply marginal on temperature control, some overheat, some don't. I know mine had it's fan on every time I was in traffic or in town and it rarely gets above 70 degrees here in summer. That was right up until I changed the exhaust system then it was fine.
It's possible that by including the additional components, like on the ZX-12, to leave the fan running after switching off they would have had lots of dead batteries. Did they take a gamble?
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