NinjaNick
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posted March 01, 2009 06:19 PM
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:-) Hold on with your new gearing :-)
Oh it'll be fun. I got tired of the stock power. I need more pull. I got use to it and tired of having it WOT and wanting MORE. Hopefully this will make me even happier, because people tell me this bike is pretty insane with the -1/+2 combo. 
I'm just going to derestrict with the speedohealer and use a http://www.veypor.com/jsp/purchase.jsp?prodID=V1000-000 for calibrated speed and all types of data recordings.
  
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Ninja14
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posted March 01, 2009 06:26 PM
What sucks with the gearing is always trying to shift into 7th on the freeway.....but a worthwhile trade when you get in lower gears and hammer it.......
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eklipse636
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posted March 01, 2009 07:05 PM
I'm gonna take my first trip wed on the interstate since the -1/+2... Need a speedohealer, doswnt feel right with the speedometer showin close to 100mph and pass a cop...
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street racer
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posted March 01, 2009 08:01 PM
I have since changed back to just a -1. The -1/+2 was turning me into a squid. The first time you try out the -1/+2 take it up to 5,000 RPM in 2nd and nail the throttle. Holy crap...thats fun !!! Even with a -1. Get ready for wheelies when you least expect it. Slight rise in the road will do it in the first three gears. Good luck to ya !!
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icarus
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posted March 02, 2009 06:53 PM
Hey Nick, if you have any more problems LMK. I am maybe 10 miles from you
and will be glad to help out. I have done all that stuff to my bike as well.
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NinjaNick
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posted March 03, 2009 06:42 AM
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Hey Nick, if you have any more problems LMK. I am maybe 10 miles from you
and will be glad to help out. I have done all that stuff to my bike as well.
Thanks Icarus, I'll remember that. You from Dayton too?
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BobC
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posted March 03, 2009 06:57 AM
If you guys are running 16/43 on a stock chain you have lowered the gearing and shortened the wheelbase. When it comes time to replace the chain you should get one a with an extra couple of links. Get the wheel as far back in the slot as you can, leaving a bit for adjustment, so you have the maximum wheelbase on the stock swingarm.
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icarus
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posted March 03, 2009 03:26 PM
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Hey Nick, if you have any more problems LMK. I am maybe 10 miles from you
and will be glad to help out. I have done all that stuff to my bike as well.
Thanks Icarus, I'll remember that. You from Dayton too?
Kettering
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NinjaNick
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posted March 03, 2009 08:58 PM
 Edited By: NinjaNick on 4 Mar 2009 04:59
Me too. I live 2 streets from the FRAZE PAVILLION.
Are you the white LE I see around Kettering sometimes?
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icarus
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posted March 04, 2009 03:56 PM
Edited By: icarus on 5 Mar 2009 00:40
This is too good. Apparently we damn near live in the same neighborhood.
I ride the blue 06 with no badges other than the ZX-14 on the rear fender.
I will be going to Tri State this Saturday if it is not raining. Im real close
to where Wagner Wood used to be.
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NinjaNick
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posted March 04, 2009 11:06 PM
Wagner Wood.......hmmmm. Where's that? lol I'm a street off of Ackerman between, Dorothy and Stroop. Small freakin' world man, small world! Especially since this is a world wide site. 
I got new sprockets, chain, oil, and new tires on my bike for the new season. Oil change today (Thursday) and I'm ready to roll. I was planning to ride Saturday to get the feel again and break in the tires, chain, sprocket, and myself again. I'm going to be sooo stiff/sore Sunday. If you want company, let me know! I've never been to this TriState. Shoot me an email if you want at NinjaNick1027@yahoo.com
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icarus
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posted March 05, 2009 04:53 PM
E-mail sent. Titled Small World.
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reevesmreeves
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posted March 16, 2009 06:29 PM
anybody know if 120 links is long enough for 17/43 stock wheelbase?
come on james brown! with you and your psi boost and all : )
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Luuk
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posted March 17, 2009 06:04 PM
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What sucks with the gearing is always trying to shift into 7th on the freeway.....but a worthwhile trade when you get in lower gears and hammer it.......
I've heard a couple people say this now but I'm really not understanding why my bike feels different?
I can be running 85-90 and in 6th gear and not be running high RPM's. What RPM range are you hoping to be in?
I'm running 16/43 as well, by the way.
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Ninja14
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posted March 17, 2009 10:42 PM
Gearing is a trade-off. You gain leverage(the application of power) and it cost time/distance - which would be RPMs(more shifting). At any give road speed your RPMs will be higher with the 16/43 vs. stock.....including a reduced max top speed b/c you will reach redline sooner.
16/43 is not too bad, but I can feel that it does "want" to have another gear to drop the freeways RPMs down.
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LAB3
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posted March 18, 2009 12:58 AM
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anybody know if 120 links is long enough for 17/43 stock wheelbase?
come on james brown! with you and your psi boost and all : )
I am running 17/43 on a stock chain that has 4K miles before 43 would go on.
Finally stretched out enough and I am not having to adjust every 300 miles.
It had a 42 on when almost new, my axle is on the first adjust mark, shorter wheel base
than the stock 41 ,was at 3rd adjust mark then. I liked it better on the open road with the 42.
But the 43 does high roll on's Better.... :-)
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masszx14
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posted March 18, 2009 03:37 AM
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anybody know if 120 links is long enough for 17/43 stock wheelbase?
come on james brown! with you and your psi boost and all : )
I am running 17/43 on a stock chain that has 4K miles before 43 would go on.
Finally stretched out enough and I am not having to adjust every 300 miles.
It had a 42 on when almost new, my axle is on the first adjust mark, shorter wheel base
than the stock 41 ,was at 3rd adjust mark then. I liked it better on the open road with the 42.
But the 43 does high roll on's Better.... :-)
The guys that run 17/43 with the stock chain usually need twice your
mileage for the chain to stretch.
I have about 4.5K on mine and 17/ 43 will never fit.
I run 16/43 on the first adluster mark and with
the correct chain slack and not a mm to spare.
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reevesmreeves
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posted March 18, 2009 04:04 AM
so, if i slide the axle all the way up front on the swingarm, 120 would be enough for 17/43?
the master link would make it 121 links wouldn't it? : )
anybody not running anodized sprockets just aluminum? how many miles are you guys getting?
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LAB3
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posted March 18, 2009 06:22 AM
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anybody know if 120 links is long enough for 17/43 stock wheelbase?
come on james brown! with you and your psi boost and all : )
I am running 17/43 on a stock chain that has 4K miles before 43 would go on.
Finally stretched out enough and I am not having to adjust every 300 miles.
It had a 42 on when almost new, my axle is on the first adjust mark, shorter wheel base
than the stock 41 ,was at 3rd adjust mark then. I liked it better on the open road with the 42.
But the 43 does high roll on's Better.... :-)
The guys that run 17/43 with the stock chain usually need twice your
mileage for the chain to stretch.
I have about 4.5K on mine and 17/ 43 will never fit.
I run 16/43 on the first adluster mark and with
the correct chain slack and not a mm to spare.
I am 6 ft 3 and 230 and I like going 60 in 2nd and going WOT, with the LSL bar riser kit
I have, I set almost straight up so the bike will pull the front tire easy doing this with clutch Out.... Ditto on my friends 06 his 14 and my 14 were running a Vortex 42 at 500 miles and he ordered two steel Driven 43 T at 4K and it went on mine and his had 11K then. I guess I am harder on chains than the average rider. Soft Vortex rear sprockets when used like we do are good for about 10K then time for new chain and go steel front/ rear sprocket, clean and lube chain every other tank of gas. I started Drag Racing a 750 Honda in the 70's ,soft light rear sprockets do Not last near as long as a hardened steel. You could see wear marks on my Vortex 42 I took off after 3K.( my guess on 10K and Vortex would be ruined.) 16/43 is TOO much for my likeing for a daily driver, makes you look for 7th gear on open Hiways... :-) Every one likes different gears for what they do most. We never used smaller front sprockets as they bend the chain more and is harder on chain wear. If you want a chain to last 20K stay 17, if not go small and and have Fun.
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reevesmreeves
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posted March 18, 2009 09:55 AM
Edited By: reevesmreeves on 18 Mar 2009 17:56
thanks lab3, i've got 14/45 on my 636 (yes wheelie machine) and last night i noticed horrible chain noises. so after 7500 miles they're shot. the 520 doesn't last nearly as long as the 530 either. to be honest, the stock chain and sprockets on the 14 look pretty decent at 11500 miles. so, i may have to replace the 636's drive before getting the 14's 
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00Busa
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posted March 19, 2009 02:16 AM
I've got a friend with 16/43 gearing and now his "gear indicator" keeps acting up. In 6th gear it sometimes 4th or 5th, if he change gearing back and forth fro 5th to sixth it will correct itself.
Any suggestions ?
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Ninja14
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posted March 19, 2009 07:49 AM
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I've got a friend with 16/43 gearing and now his "gear indicator" keeps acting up. In 6th gear it sometimes 4th or 5th, if he change gearing back and forth fro 5th to sixth it will correct itself.
Any suggestions ?
There is nothing you can do about it. This happens b/c the ECU calculates the number to be displayed.
If you pull the clutch in on the higjhway and let the RPMs come down it will show the correct number........live with it :-)
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LAB3
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posted March 19, 2009 08:40 AM
Ninja14 Thanks Good information.
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Shane661
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posted March 19, 2009 08:42 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Mar 2009 16:46
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I've got a friend with 16/43 gearing and now his "gear indicator" keeps acting up. In 6th gear it sometimes 4th or 5th, if he change gearing back and forth fro 5th to sixth it will correct itself.
Any suggestions ?
There is nothing you can do about it. This happens b/c the ECU calculates the number to be displayed.
If you pull the clutch in on the higjhway and let the RPMs come down it will show the correct number........live with it :-)
That's interesting. I never had a problem with my gear indicator...even with 16/45 gearing.
I thought that the gear position sensor was used for that purpose?
Perhaps I don't pay that much attention to it, but I've never noticed it reading faulty.
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FastestBusaAround
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posted March 19, 2009 09:35 AM
BS -- this is my 2nd ZX14 with a 16/43 setup on the stock chain. I stretched this one, so obviously I had to replace the chain, but I had the stocker on a 16/43 setup on my 06 and my 08 before the stretch...the 08 from day one and the 06 from 8K on. Also had play on the chain length as well..
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