NinjaNick
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posted February 24, 2009 11:53 AM
16/43 w/stock chain?
I could've sworn you guys have said 16/43 can keep the stock chain. It's not working. Rear is as far up as it can go and the chain won't go over the rear sprocket.
  
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smokehouse4444
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posted February 24, 2009 12:10 PM
No man, I hate to tell you, but you can use the stock chain if you just use the 16t. From what I understand, when you change the rear sprocket, even if you keep the front 17t, you have to change the chain out.
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NinjaNick
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posted February 24, 2009 01:02 PM
 Edited By: NinjaNick on 24 Feb 2009 23:31
I'm going to make a phone call to my high performance shop nearby.
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NinjaNick
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posted February 24, 2009 03:30 PM
Bought a DID530 ZVMX 120L
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Tool Man
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posted February 24, 2009 03:32 PM
Pull the axle... put the chain on sprocket then re-install axle.
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NinjaNick
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posted February 24, 2009 03:35 PM
Wouldn't it have no slack probably? It was stretched tight trying to just get it on.
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LAB3
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posted February 24, 2009 05:24 PM
I am runing 17/43 and on the 1st adjuster mark line. It took about a 1000 miles of playing hard and adjusting the slack out ( 5 or 6 times)before the 43 would go on. My friends 06 has 18,000 miles on his stock chain and too is 17/43. I ran a 42 Vortex until the chain stretched out enough for my Driven Steel 43 anodizied Black. Drive that 14 Harder and it will go on. :-)
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NinjaNick
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posted February 24, 2009 05:28 PM
No chicken strips and no drag strips and I've been through 2 rears in 4k miles. I'm doing alright.  I just keep it lubed better so it doesn't need adjusted much. 
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LAB3
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posted February 24, 2009 05:41 PM
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No chicken strips and no drag strips and I've been through 2 rears in 4k miles. I'm doing alright. I just keep it lubed better so it doesn't need adjusted much.
I keep my chain lubed too, but I am 6 ft 3 and 220 pounds and I like doing 60 in 2nd gear and hitting it hard. Pulls the front tire every time, had to move the tag I kept bending it :-) I still have the OEM rear tire with 3700 miles. Time for a new set of Michelin Pilots. My friend had the same thing after he did a few 2nd gear wheelies the chain will stretch enough for a 43....Really,
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NinjaNick
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posted February 24, 2009 05:50 PM
Edited By: NinjaNick on 25 Feb 2009 01:53
I'm 6'2 300. It might stretch that much from releasing the clutch too hard and snapping it up, or just jerking the chain too much.
I have my suspension sag set for my weight and I've never had a LP problem. Setting suspension on this bike makes it rail.
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LAB3
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posted February 24, 2009 06:15 PM
I guess I had my front tire higher in the air. :-) no hard clutching it, I had a 42 rear and with
the LSL handle bar riser kit you set more straight up. Really easy to pull the front tire at 60 in 2nd, Hey you pay your bills on time, just buy a longer chain.. :-) just kidding with you NN. I was really telling you the truth about a stock chain and having to move my home made tag holder.
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NinjaNick
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posted February 24, 2009 06:16 PM
Oh I understand. It's all good. I was just shooting the shit with ya.
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NinjaNick
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posted March 01, 2009 07:39 AM
Ended up taking 2 links off of the new chain and now running 118 links. Now to install this speedohealer.
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LAB3
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posted March 01, 2009 09:23 AM
Edited By: LAB3 on 1 Mar 2009 20:06
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Ended up taking 2 links off of the new chain and now running 118 links. Now to install this speedohealer.
It was too tight now you have removed 2 links? Hope you used a pressed on rivet master link , not a clip on link. I have the Heal Tech with the top speed memory SH-V4/SH-K01.
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street racer
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posted March 01, 2009 12:02 PM
With 3200 miles on the odometer I installed a 16/43 and the chain easily fit.
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NinjaNick
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posted March 01, 2009 12:12 PM
Edited By: NinjaNick on 1 Mar 2009 20:13
No LAB3, I put a whole new DID ZVM2 chain on. It comes with 120 links. Had to remove 2 links which makes 118. It's all the way up on the swingarm now.
Also, yeah I'm a rivet master link man. Clip links are scary to me.
And yep, I have the SH-K01 too. 
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Luuk
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posted March 01, 2009 12:14 PM
I put a 16/43 on mine and kept the stock chain @ 1100 miles.
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NinjaNick
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posted March 01, 2009 12:19 PM
Well damn, how come you all got the stock chain to go over the rear and I couldn't?
I had the wheel pushed ALL the way up against the arm and it wouldn't roll on the sprocket no matter what I did. That damn thing was stretched HARD and just wouldn't make it. 118 links over the stock 116 got me there though and it's not loose at all. Oh to be a fly on the wall in your garage to see how you did it.
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LAB3
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posted March 01, 2009 12:25 PM
Are you going to mount you speepd healer where you can see what you last top speed was? I have not installed mine yet as I was waiting on my stock chain to stretch out so I could change the 42 to a 43T. And set it just One time if you are going to hide it uner the fairing. When I install Shane's old M14 exhaust I was going to install the Heal tech then.
I hate pulling off that Black body parts. One little opps and the Black shows every little flaw.
I really was looking for a Red one but I got a good deal on the Black 07 :-) Hold on with your new gearing :-)
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Ninja14
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posted March 01, 2009 01:02 PM
Edited By: Ninja14 on 1 Mar 2009 21:03
I've been at 16/43 w/ stock chain for over 2 years.........even more fun at 6psi - smoke on demand.
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posted March 01, 2009 01:39 PM
Edited By: street racer on 1 Mar 2009 21:41
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Well damn, how come you all got the stock chain to go over the rear and I couldn't?
I had the wheel pushed ALL the way up against the arm and it wouldn't roll on the sprocket no matter what I did. That damn thing was stretched HARD and just wouldn't make it. 118 links over the stock 116 got me there though and it's not loose at all. Oh to be a fly on the wall in your garage to see how you did it.
Dont mean to be condescending but are you absolutely sure you have a 16 on the front ?? A 17 on the front could make it hard to use the stock chain with a 43 rear.
Besides the ZX14, I have changed to a -1/+2 on my last three motorcycles and none of them required a new chain.
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posted March 01, 2009 01:51 PM
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I hate pulling off that Black body parts. One little opps and the Black shows every little flaw.
I really was looking for a Red one but I got a good deal on the Black 07 :-) Hold on with your new gearing :-)
I hear ya ! I swore no more black bikes. I was acutally looking for a RED hayabusa when my 2006 RED ZX14 came up for sale at a bargain price. The red is really an easy color to live with too. Doesnt show dirt and the cagers really see it well.
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LAB3
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posted March 01, 2009 02:26 PM
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I hate pulling off that Black body parts. One little opps and the Black shows every little flaw.
I really was looking for a Red one but I got a good deal on the Black 07 :-) Hold on with your new gearing :-)
I hear ya ! I swore no more black bikes. I was acutally looking for a RED hayabusa when my 2006 RED ZX14 came up for sale at a bargain price. The red is really an easy color to live with too. Doesnt show dirt and the cagers really see it well.
Wish the PM worked. I was looking for a Red 06 ZX-14 and also almost purchased a 04
Red LE Busa,,,3K in bolt on's, Rode it after riding a friends 06 Red ZX-14 with bolt on's
the Kaw stopped better, turned better and had More mid with fly's out than the 04 Busa and was geared more than the ZX. The Busa looked dated to me now. This Metallic Black (when Clean) looks Cool in the sunlight. I get a lot of guys at a red light look at it :-) both are Great bikes I just wanted a change. I had a new Metallic Red 98 ZX-9R for 5 years, wish I would have kept it. As some of the members say.Live Large and Ride Hard
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Evilsports
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posted March 01, 2009 03:00 PM
I been running 16/43 since new pretty much with stock chain.
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NinjaNick
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posted March 01, 2009 06:10 PM
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Dont mean to be condescending but are you absolutely sure you have a 16 on the front ?? A 17 on the front could make it hard to use the stock chain with a 43 rear.
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It's cool. Yeah it's a 16 toofer. It's stamped right on it too and you can see the smallness of it compared to the stocker I took off.
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