specialzx14
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posted February 18, 2009 05:37 PM
using the pc3 for kill box
bout to order an air shifter kit a guy said you can use the power commander for the kill box how dependable is that and does it work. i also need some cheap ideas about mounting the bottle already have one in the swingarm
  
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dubious
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posted February 18, 2009 07:16 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 19 Feb 2009 03:17
I wouldn't... can't set delay and kill independantly... you need the hub to activate a relay,
in the end I think you'll find its just as well to use an mps box.
Same $$ as a hub, and better suited for what you want to do.
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Halvefast
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posted February 18, 2009 07:35 PM
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dubious
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posted February 18, 2009 10:15 PM
oh yeah, I forgot about the quickshift kit... my bad.
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KZScott
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posted February 18, 2009 10:29 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 19 Feb 2009 06:56
also, if you mount the switching valve ON the air ram, you dont need a delay. one of those inch long 1/8 pipe fittings doesnt really need delay( thats how i set up mine and dads) 
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posted February 18, 2009 11:10 PM
Edited By: dubious on 19 Feb 2009 07:11
good info! 
I just ordered a big ram, with 3/8 lines and the bigger solenoid to boot...
had intended to mount it right on the cylinder too... quicker shifts ; )
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zxbob
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posted February 19, 2009 03:22 AM
I've got the "DJ" quick shift on my bike and it work bitchen !
Air is nice if you want it push button but I did'nt want the air bottle
off the side of my bike.
Bob
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eklipse636
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posted February 19, 2009 05:51 AM
i just installed the air kill shift kit on mine, and it seems to work great! there any reason why no one uses them on here?
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Halvefast
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posted February 20, 2009 03:37 AM
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i just installed the air kill shift kit on mine, and it seems to work great! there any reason why no one uses them on here?
Biggest reason people are going away from air-kill is lack of kill time adjustability
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Shane661
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posted February 20, 2009 08:33 AM
I am thinking of going with this setup and ditching my kill box. Halvefast, did you also use the hub to trigger an auto-shift?
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ninja12
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posted February 20, 2009 09:41 PM
no hub needed.
I don't use any relays either. (i don't thing voltage is any more than the horn).
1. run a fused hot wire to the switching valve,
2. find the horn wire that goes to ground when you push the button,
3. put a switching that wire or just use that wire
4. run the wire from #3 to open the switching valve and ground the
PC pin to activate the kill.
5. load software in PC.
6. test and drink cold beer.
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Halvefast
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posted February 21, 2009 09:05 AM
Haven't been able to consistently get it to auto shift, need to apply a longer signal... stay tuned!
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posted February 22, 2009 02:41 AM
Edited By: ninja12 on 22 Feb 2009 10:42
What are you using to trigger your auto shift?
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posted February 22, 2009 08:23 AM
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Haven't been able to consistently get it to auto shift, need to apply a longer signal... stay tuned!
and you never will get auto-shifting to be consistent with that set-up ... mps for the win
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Shane661
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posted February 22, 2009 08:27 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Feb 2009 16:29
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Haven't been able to consistently get it to auto shift, need to apply a longer signal... stay tuned!
and you never will get auto-shifting to be consistent with that set-up ... mps for the win
Why not?
I don't see where the problem is. The hub is either capable of triggering a relay reliably or not.
Nobody can get these relay outputs to work? 06redzx14 is apparently using the setup for auto shift and nitrous operation.
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posted February 22, 2009 09:13 AM
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I've got the "DJ" quick shift on my bike and it work bitchen !
Air is nice if you want it push button but I did'nt want the air bottle
off the side of my bike.
Bob
i know lots of guys that use the dynojet quickshifter with no problems
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KZScott
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posted February 22, 2009 10:04 AM
quote:
quote:
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Haven't been able to consistently get it to auto shift, need to apply a longer signal... stay tuned!
and you never will get auto-shifting to be consistent with that set-up ... mps for the win
Why not?
I don't see where the problem is. The hub is either capable of triggering a relay reliably or not.
Nobody can get these relay outputs to work? 06redzx14 is apparently using the setup for auto shift and nitrous operation.
Shane
1bad couldnt figure it out, so that means it doesnt work lol... even though other guys use it all the time. almostles has it on his 12R for autoshifting too
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