Shifty
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posted February 16, 2009 07:44 PM
8's in the quarter with stock wheelbase?
Hi guys
I currently have a ZX12R and am trading shortly on a ZX14 with the intention of doing some drag racing.
The numbers I've been reading from people are very hit-and-miss with some guys running mid-high 10's on bikes with a few basic mods to guys running mid-high nines on completely stock bikes and mid-low nines on completely stock bikes that are strapped/lowered and standard wheelbase.
Along with this there's a lot of trash talk on the internet and a lot of people with big egos, so I'm not really sure what to expect...! I am fairly confident with my abilities that I'll be able to crack into the 9's on a completely stock bike.
My aim though is to get into the 8's on the stock wheelbase with a road tyre, of course I'd need to strap the front and lower the rear but I'm not interested in making any permanent changes to the bike's rideability on the road as I enjoy all aspects of riding.
If anyone has any info on other guys that have done this, or gone very close, I would be interested to read up on them or get in touch. Out of interest I am about 200lbs in full leathers & helmet.
  
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06redzx14
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posted February 16, 2009 07:56 PM
I saw it done a couple weeks ago but the rider was only about 140lbs suited and he was a pro rider on a ss prepped bike.
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Bawls
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posted February 16, 2009 08:11 PM
i run 6.40 on a stock wheelbase stock piped 07 with no flies, 16t front sprocket, strapped and lowered on the 2nd hole on my bones. i weigh 185ish in shorts, and could still use some improvement on my launch. high 1.5's in the 60ft. my da is 4000+ so at sea level i should run a little faster. i've never run 1/4 mile so i can't tell you what that would equate to. i believe that chip ellis went 9.02 on brocks stock wheelbase diary bike with bolt ons and no spray. hope that that helps a little. if you're ever in so. cal let me know and i'll take you to the track.
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smokinZX14
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posted February 16, 2009 08:14 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 17 Feb 2009 04:26
I have gone 9.18 on my 06 zx14 with just a pipe p/c, strapped , stock tire, lowered on pump gas, stock gears and stock air filter .... I only weigh 150 race ready ... I only tried it a few times with this set up , i'm sure with seat time and a few more tricks ( race fuel , gears ) I could have got a bit lower ET ... There are a few more guys out there that have done the same or better than i did ... At 200 pounds i think you would need a little spray or a non stock motor , I could be wrong ......Here is the ticket , sorry it's a bit fuzzy but you get the idea.
1.53 60 foot
4.013 330
5.990 1/8 mile ET @ 123.96
9.18 1/4 mile ET @ 152.33
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Bawls
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posted February 16, 2009 08:29 PM
lol... they don't call him smokin for nothing 
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 16, 2009 08:59 PM
8's at 200 lbs is gonna be a helluva feat. The bike would have to be slammed, geared, drop seat, and a whole fuggin lot of seat time.
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rACeRs
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posted February 16, 2009 10:09 PM
I am 205-210lbs unsuited and made over 140 passes at stock length and the best I could do is in my sig. I have been on bikes since I was a kid, so Id say Im better than average and I didnt even come close. Id say it aint going to happen at 200lbs, but prove me wrong 
Shit Im still trying to hit 8's at 63" which isnt easy either lol.
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gilberjj
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posted February 17, 2009 03:35 AM
haha.... I'm going for 9.5's
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Shane661
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posted February 17, 2009 04:11 AM
At 200 lbs. you will need a power adder and a really good clutch hand.
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 17, 2009 05:50 AM
quote:
8's at 200 lbs is gonna be a helluva feat. The bike would have to be slammed, geared, drop seat, and a whole fuggin lot of seat time.
I should also say you will be an expert at installing clutches..
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jessejames82
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posted February 17, 2009 06:07 AM
i am gonna try.....again i think it can be done add some weight up front or mr9
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rACeRs
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posted February 17, 2009 06:31 AM
quote:
i am gonna try.....again i think it can be done add some weight up front or mr9
Not at 200lbs?
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posted February 17, 2009 06:56 AM
what do you guys think a 90lbs rider fully suited could do???
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 17, 2009 07:09 AM
quote:
what do you guys think a 90lbs rider fully suited could do???
A complete backflip with too much clutch.....
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gilberjj
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posted February 17, 2009 07:44 AM
quote:
quote:
what do you guys think a 90lbs rider fully suited could do???
A complete backflip with too much clutch.....
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posted February 17, 2009 09:04 AM
Farlie Hall recently went 8.94 @ HRP on a SS-14 getting ready for SGMP-Prostar
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kawasakijockey
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posted February 17, 2009 10:00 AM
I was there when he did it but Farlie is a lightweight.
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JohnnyRocketZX14
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posted February 17, 2009 11:19 AM
@ 200lbs i tried,gave up and just sprayed to get 8's even at 63"
did run a 9.16 on motor but usually .20's
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Shifty
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posted February 18, 2009 04:05 PM
Edited By: Shifty on 19 Feb 2009 00:24
Thanks for your replies!
Anyway I'm in Australia and we use kilograms not pounds. I'm 80kg fully suited which I just worked out is 176lbs. I'm in the process of getting a bit fitter so I expect I'll be down to about 77kg fully geared which is 170lbs at race weight.
Looks like the best way to go is:
Exhaust/filter/power commander
Strapped front
Lowered rear
Lots of practice
If I get stuck I may look at extending a very small amount but that's an absolute last resort.
I definitely wouldn't run a spray of gas, here in Oz it's considered cheating on a 'streeter'.
Does the 14 need any reliability work regarding oiling system, clutch or other aspects? Reliability is an important thing to me.
As for gearing with stock wheelbase and my low weight I'm not sure if it's worth dropping a tooth in the front as it will probably just translate into more time with the wheel up. Thoughts?
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Shane661
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posted February 18, 2009 04:25 PM
Dude, if Keith Dennis didn't do it on Brock's bike...well, good luck. 
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=2196&z=2
Stock clutch will hold up fine.The clutch is a lot more sturdy than the one in the 12R.
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kaw-rick
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posted February 18, 2009 04:34 PM
I wonder how much hall weighs? he didnt look all that light to me. maybe 180.
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eklipse636
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posted February 18, 2009 05:07 PM
Good luck! Your gonna need it!
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06redzx14
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posted February 18, 2009 05:30 PM
Farlie Hall 2/8/09 HRP 8.94
http://ssracingphotography.smugmug.com/photos/471518561_7aWEe-M.jpg
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Shane661
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posted February 18, 2009 05:35 PM
Flyweight!
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Bawls
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posted February 18, 2009 07:35 PM
what's up with the sport touring screen? anyone else besides me notice that?
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