BIG BLUE_ZX14
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posted February 13, 2009 08:41 AM
Can't pull the trigger...
I called Brocks this week to get details on the Gen 3 system CF and was all set to make the purchase when my truck needed new brakes. $300 out of the exhaust budget. Brocks systems are walking the line of un/affordability for me as it is and the truck repair has set me back. I've been contemplating this all winter and just can't seem to pull the trigger to make the purchase. Do I need the Brocks system, no. Do I want to drop 20 plus pounds from the bike and the extra performance the Brocks system will provide, yes. I would be the only rider in the area to have a Brocks exhaust, not a good reason I know.
Maybe I can be brow beat into action. Let the jabs and jeering begin.
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derpie
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posted February 13, 2009 08:55 AM
I change my own brakes maybe you should too , It is some thing that not only gives me self satisfaction but it can also add to your other projects budget .
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Wheelie
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posted February 13, 2009 08:58 AM
get the brakes!
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Shane661
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posted February 13, 2009 09:02 AM
I am going to make a suggestion, and wait for the screams....
Consider the Muzzy M14. It will make comparable power to the Brocks, has apparently better ground clearance, and is well-made.
The drawback? You don't get the level of support that Brock offers. I am certainly not going to sing about Muzzy customer service!
The advantage? It can be had for $300 less than a Brocks.
If that doesn't work for you, just wait it out. $300 will come along...
Shane
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dubious
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posted February 13, 2009 09:08 AM
keep an eye open in the classifieds here and at psychobike.
You could find a good used brocks pipe for ~ $600
A new PC3 can be found as cheap as $250 too.
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bigdtd
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posted February 13, 2009 09:13 AM
pull the trigger!!!!!!!!!!!!
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kaw-rick
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posted February 13, 2009 09:37 AM
If i wasnt trying to get maximum perf, andjust needed to shed a few lbs off the bike. I would consider any of the other full exhausts out there. the hp different isnt that much to worry about unless your a racer.
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BobC
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posted February 13, 2009 10:09 AM
Don't compromise, wait until you have the money and go Brock. If you've already decided it is the best system and the one for you then it's worth waiting for.
I'm in the same position. I was all set to purchase a Brock system just before Christmas when the UK £ dropped like a stone against the US $ and the price went up by a few hundred.
I decided to wait for a while. If I bought another cheaper system I just know I would regret it in the future.
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BIG BLUE_ZX14
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posted February 13, 2009 10:56 AM
 Edited By: BIG BLUE_ZX14 on 13 Feb 2009 18:56
Thanks for the input guys! I did have the brakes done, there was no question that had to be done as I don't have the tools or the time to do that job myself.
Shane - I considered the Muzzy system and talked to them over the phone regarding map support. I was left with a feeling of uneasiness regarding their maps. I don't believe they go to the same length to produce a quality map as others would. I'm not as engine savy as of some of you so I may be relying on tech support to a greater degree.
Dub - I've tried to find used systems...I just seem to not have the right timing. And again, if I'm relying on tech support I feel like I should buy their product new.
BobC - Yes, I have to agree. It's the system I want and certainly don't want to do this twice. Do it right the first time even if it takes a little longer.
Thanks again, I knew I would get thoughtful responses.
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cycle junkie
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posted February 13, 2009 11:45 AM
Edited By: cycle junkie on 13 Feb 2009 19:47
On sale! $315 less than the one you were looking at.
I think the can is just slung a little lower.
Oh, and it's titanium not carbon.
http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockracing/-strse-1651/Generation-3-StreetSmart-Exhaust/Detail
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Sergent
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posted February 13, 2009 12:04 PM
Brock exhaust and customer
If you ask me Brock exhaust is the way to go bought mine and love it. Now on the customer service at Brocks i think it sucks i ordered the 200 mph package got everything but the strap and brackets. So i called and talked to Brock about adjusting the speeohealer and where my parts were and he told me to read the insructions on the healer and i said i did and he told me for the parts and not knowing how to adjust the healer wasnt his f...ing problem. I got off the phone and was like wow what a nice guy I wont be doing business with him anymore.
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NINJA12
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posted February 13, 2009 12:41 PM
Edited By: NINJA12 on 13 Feb 2009 20:41
Brock supports his products, new and used!
If you buy used give him the original buyers info and he will give you the same support.
If you damage a part of the exhaust you can replace it. His maps may not be custom for your bike but I've not heard one complaint about drivability, or performance. I bought a used pipe,and didn't get all the springs , Brock GAVE them to me at the track. Beat that for support.
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slates
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posted February 13, 2009 12:49 PM
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If you ask me Brock exhaust is the way to go bought mine and love it. Now on the customer service at Brocks i think it sucks i ordered the 200 mph package got everything but the strap and brackets. So i called and talked to Brock about adjusting the speeohealer and where my parts were and he told me to read the insructions on the healer and i said i did and he told me for the parts and not knowing how to adjust the healer wasnt his f...ing problem. I got off the phone and was like wow what a nice guy I wont be doing business with him anymore.
BS...**SPAM ALERT** mister 2 post
If that was a true story I'd give away my 14...probably a competitor employee. This wouldn't be the first time a competitor's employee has posted bogus info. on Brock.
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Ninja_Knight
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posted February 13, 2009 12:55 PM
Do ZX-14.com members get a discount with Brock?
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Shane661
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posted February 13, 2009 01:05 PM
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BS...**SPAM ALERT** mister 2 post
If that was a true story I'd give away my 14...probably a competitor employee. This wouldn't be the first time a competitor's employee has posted bogus info. on Brock.
The way you guys put Brock on a pedestal....well, I'm sure he is great and all..but he is human. If someone has a bad experience with Brock they probably aren't going to post it here...all they will face is ridicule and accusation, I'm sure.
If it turns out to be true, you can mail your 14 to me! 
Shane
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SteveWFL
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posted February 13, 2009 01:11 PM
quote:
keep an eye open in the classifieds here and at psychobike.
You could find a good used brocks pipe for ~ $600
A new PC3 can be found as cheap as $250 too.
actually i sold a ZX14 brock's full system, PCIII, and a brand new speed-healer as a package to smokin for $450 and a cheeseburger and fries at QSL, and haven't got my cheesburger yet 
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slates
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posted February 13, 2009 01:12 PM
Shane,
If you've dealt with the man as much as I have and other, you know he wouldn't do or say this....I'm sure we don't have the whole story. We'll see if Brock decides to waste his time to respond to this while he's at the dealer show in Indy.
BTW...thanks for the thread, love your bike build...and you could use my wheels, but you can get a nice set from Brock as well.
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dubious
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posted February 13, 2009 01:12 PM
I'll get ya your pipe give me a call...it'l be worth every $
403-850-2539
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Sergent
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posted February 13, 2009 01:14 PM
brocks support
No its not bs if you would like you can come to my house and look at my 14 i have bought parts from dubious you guys might like brock and his support im just saying i think it sucks sorry if you and other people dont like what i have to say excellent pipe just dont like the support
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slates
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posted February 13, 2009 01:19 PM
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No its not bs if you would like you can come to my house and look at my 14 i have bought parts from dubious you guys might like brock and his support im just saying i think it sucks sorry if you and other people dont like what i have to say excellent pipe just dont like the support
You'd be the first I've heard of if that is true...I'm guessing there's more to the story...we'll see if Brock decides to post or not...
In the mean time, why don't you ask Smokin (pm) since Brock is busy at the annual trade show, he's probably just as willing to help you out as he has myself and others.
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Shane661
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posted February 13, 2009 01:22 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Feb 2009 21:26
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Shane,
If you've dealt with the man as much as I have and other, you know he wouldn't do or say this....I'm sure we don't have the whole story. We'll see if Brock decides to waste his time to respond to this while he's at the dealer show in Indy.
BTW...thanks for the thread, love your bike build...and you could use my wheels, but you can get a nice set from Brock as well.
Yeah, I'd love to have a set of those BST's! If Brock wants to sponsor me a set, I'm all for it! Hey, my thread is coming up on 19,000 views! It's worth it to him. 
Otherwise, maybe next year. 
Shane
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slates
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posted February 13, 2009 01:26 PM
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Shane,
If you've dealt with the man as much as I have and other, you know he wouldn't do or say this....I'm sure we don't have the whole story. We'll see if Brock decides to waste his time to respond to this while he's at the dealer show in Indy.
BTW...thanks for the thread, love your bike build...and you could use my wheels, but you can get a nice set from Brock as well.
Yeah, I'd love to have a set of those BST's! If Brock wants to sponsor me a set, I'm all for it! Hey, my thread is coming up on 18,000 views! It's worth it to him.
Otherwise, maybe next year.
Shane
I can't disagree with you there...not my business, but it may be worth offering you a heavy discount on wheels and new drag pipe. Especially if they throw on a super light weight throttle jockey that will break speed records at Maxton, Texas, and/or Bonneville.
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dubious
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posted February 13, 2009 01:42 PM
quote:
quote:
keep an eye open in the classifieds here and at psychobike.
You could find a good used brocks pipe for ~ $600
A new PC3 can be found as cheap as $250 too.
actually i sold a ZX14 brock's full system, PCIII, and a brand new speed-healer as a package to smokin for $450 and a cheeseburger and fries at QSL, and haven't got my cheesburger yet
cumon Steve,
you know that is NOT typical pricing and unfair of you to compare that to anything realistic.
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SteveWFL
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posted February 13, 2009 01:45 PM
quote:
quote:
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keep an eye open in the classifieds here and at psychobike.
You could find a good used brocks pipe for ~ $600
A new PC3 can be found as cheap as $250 too.
actually i sold a ZX14 brock's full system, PCIII, and a brand new speed-healer as a package to smokin for $450 and a cheeseburger and fries at QSL, and haven't got my cheesburger yet
cumon Steve,
you know that is NOT typical pricing and unfair of you to compare that to anything realistic.
actually I was being sarcastic of course; that was a friend to friend giveaway and a cheeseburger is still owed!
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icarus
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posted February 13, 2009 03:30 PM
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If you ask me Brock exhaust is the way to go bought mine and love it. Now on the customer service at Brocks i think it sucks i ordered the 200 mph package got everything but the strap and brackets. So i called and talked to Brock about adjusting the speeohealer and where my parts were and he told me to read the insructions on the healer and i said i did and he told me for the parts and not knowing how to adjust the healer wasnt his f...ing problem. I got off the phone and was like wow what a nice guy I wont be doing business with him anymore.
When did you buy your parts? It is possible that you talked to the POS that was
stealing from him and not Brock. I have been around him at the track and a few
other places for about 10 years now and I honestly don't think I've even heard him
cuss or raise his voice to anyone.
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