Dark14
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posted February 07, 2009 06:40 PM
OIL IN MY AIRBOX!!!!
This is a pic i took while removing my secondary throttle plates.
There is a puddle of oil in the bottom left of the picture and oil every where else in the airbox.
I am the second owner of this bike, and the bike runs great, and the airfilter is stock, so that rules out over oil-ing the air filter.
i just hope that this is normal OR that the moron changed his own oil and had the bike leaning on the kickstand when he filled the oil to the full line of the sight glass. If thats the case all is good now cause i changed the oil as soon as i got it.
HELP! I won't be able to sleep at night. But like i said the bike runs great.
  
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KZScott
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posted February 07, 2009 06:47 PM
probly just over filled if it runs fine
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posted February 07, 2009 06:48 PM
14s do that.
Dont loose any sleep.
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Dark14
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posted February 07, 2009 06:53 PM
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14s do that.
Dont loose any sleep.
Man thats crazzy. they all have PUDDLES of oil in their air box. I don't mean to second guess you but i have been reading all over the forums about the zx14 and have never heard of it.
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smokinZX14
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posted February 07, 2009 06:55 PM
Yup they do that when over filled ...None of the zx14s i have or worked on have done that but they were never over filled either ..
P/S don't oil the stock air filter , it's just a paper filter and no oil is needed..
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Dark14
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posted February 07, 2009 07:06 PM
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Yup they do that when over filled ...None of the zx14s i have or worked on have done that but they were never over filled either ..
P/S don't oil the stock air filter , it's just a paper filter and no oil is needed..
haha. Don't worry i did't oil my paper filter. lol
I don't know for sure if it was over filled, but i guess that's happens when u buy used.
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ratbyk
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posted February 07, 2009 07:48 PM
I have heard of this oiling in the air box before on some forums. An over filled crankcase could have some foamed up oil find it's way up the crankcase breather tube into the air box.
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fish_antlers
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posted February 07, 2009 08:38 PM
CHeck the overflow catch bottle - prolly full so blowby/oil has nowhere else to collect
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Rook
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posted February 07, 2009 08:45 PM
I had the same sort of scare when I removed flies. Each plate had a drip of oil that collected on the bottom edge. Oil was never overfull. Had nothing in my catch bottle except for a black streak on the side. Nothing there to drain.
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Dark14
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posted February 07, 2009 09:57 PM
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CHeck the overflow catch bottle - prolly full so blowby/oil has nowhere else to collect
Where is that by the way? I didn't see anything in the "engine lubrication system" section in the owners mannual i downloaded.
I do remember brock saying how he had to drain it a few times but i forgot about it until now
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dubious
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posted February 07, 2009 10:35 PM
down by the kickstand... mine never had oil in it, although my airbox was misted..
I run mine 3/4 up the sight glass and over 7000 rpm in 6th gear for hours in a day sometimes...
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Rook
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posted February 08, 2009 05:35 AM
^^There are two small inverted bottles with a hose running to each down there. The airbox bottle is the one with the stopper on the bottom.
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mike1024
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posted February 08, 2009 08:46 AM
hey guys! My 06 zx14 i bought in 06 had a welding error. The weld allowed a needle head sized hole to exist. Oil would drip out the little hole in the weld. Kawi warrantied it, and now theres no more oil. Go to your dealer. It is a common thing, as is the head leaking.
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fish_antlers
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posted February 08, 2009 08:47 AM
photo?
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fish_antlers
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posted February 08, 2009 09:03 AM
wait a minute ... wait kind of a weld pinhole in the frame would let oil into the airbox? from where?
I'm confused.. the airbox on the 14 is hardly airtight...
see this topic for other issues...
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=43832
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Old Guy
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posted February 08, 2009 04:18 PM
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CHeck the overflow catch bottle - prolly full so blowby/oil has nowhere else to collect
Yup or overfill. I did same. Noticed with a full measured change it would be there after track days.
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Dark14
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posted February 08, 2009 06:43 PM
Hell no i'm not thrashing it. I just got it 3 weeks ago and i've only had 2 runs down the track.
But i guess i'm not to worried about it, cause the oil level hasn't changed since i did the oil change, and it runs SOOOOO good with those secondaries removed
I haven't had a chance to check the overflow bottle yet so i will check it out and re-post
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Bad in Black
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posted February 09, 2009 01:32 AM
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down by the kickstand... mine never had oil in it, although my airbox was misted..
I run mine 3/4 up the sight glass and over 7000 rpm in 6th gear for hours in a day sometimes...
Yep the 12...and to a lesser degree the 14, seem to have some issues with being filled clear up and ran at higher rpms....they like to push a little oil into the airbox. Muzzy and a couple other shops actually claimed that they gained hp on the 12 with lower oil levels.....less crankcase pressures and way less parasetic drag on the crank. On the 12 the issue was more the sight glass set-up......it read lower than the true oil level, so unless you took plenty of time to let the oil settle, you ended up overfilling it even tho the sight glass showed you were fine. The fix I found for my 14 was to run the oil half full on the sight glass....no more blowby, and my valve cover leak went down to almost nothing. The 14 seems to build up a little too much positive crankcase pressure when she's chock full
I'm in the process of fixing the cover leak right....but the change in the leak compared to the oil level was interesting 
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Dark14
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posted February 09, 2009 04:56 PM
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Yep the 12...and to a lesser degree the 14, seem to have some issues with being filled clear up and ran at higher rpms....they like to push a little oil into the airbox. Muzzy and a couple other shops actually claimed that they gained hp on the 12 with lower oil levels.....less crankcase pressures and way less parasetic drag on the crank. On the 12 the issue was more the sight glass set-up......it read lower than the true oil level, so unless you took plenty of time to let the oil settle, you ended up overfilling it even tho the sight glass showed you were fine. The fix I found for my 14 was to run the oil half full on the sight glass....no more blowby, and my valve cover leak went down to almost nothing. The 14 seems to build up a little too much positive crankcase pressure when she's chock full
I'm in the process of fixing the cover leak right....but the change in the leak compared to the oil level was interesting
Ok well i always run my oil level halfway between the marks so i guess i have nothing to worry about now that i own the bike
THANKS for all the info guys this site is a lifesaver! And everyone is awsome here!
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Rook
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posted February 09, 2009 05:27 PM
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down by the kickstand... mine never had oil in it, although my airbox was misted..
I run mine 3/4 up the sight glass and over 7000 rpm in 6th gear for hours in a day sometimes...
Yep the 12...and to a lesser degree the 14, seem to have some issues with being filled clear up and ran at higher rpms....they like to push a little oil into the airbox. Muzzy and a couple other shops actually claimed that they gained hp on the 12 with lower oil levels.....less crankcase pressures and way less parasetic drag on the crank. On the 12 the issue was more the sight glass set-up......it read lower than the true oil level, so unless you took plenty of time to let the oil settle, you ended up overfilling it even tho the sight glass showed you were fine. The fix I found for my 14 was to run the oil half full on the sight glass....no more blowby, and my valve cover leak went down to almost nothing. The 14 seems to build up a little too much positive crankcase pressure when she's chock full
I'm in the process of fixing the cover leak right....but the change in the leak compared to the oil level was interesting
Hello, Bad!! I'm glad you finally decided to show up. a lot of us have been wodering where the heck you were.
Everyone talk this guy into staying. Don't let the "novice class" post count fool you.
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Bad in Black
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posted February 09, 2009 10:38 PM
Oh I'm stickin' around D.......I kinda like it here  It has sort of a Gotham City feel to it 
And you got me plenty covered in post count now lol
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Dark14
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posted February 11, 2009 07:01 PM
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hey guys! My 06 zx14 i bought in 06 had a welding error. The weld allowed a needle head sized hole to exist. Oil would drip out the little hole in the weld. Kawi warrantied it, and now theres no more oil. Go to your dealer. It is a common thing, as is the head leaking.
Rock on guys!
Where is this pinhole at?
Is it in the airbox?
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