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posted February 06, 2009 07:28 PM
O.K.
So when I was doing the N20 on Beths bike ~ I was told its better to spray after the
air filter, not in front of it ?
Bob
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smokinZX14
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posted February 06, 2009 07:39 PM
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O.K.
So when I was doing the N20 on Beths bike ~ I was told its better to spray after the
air filter, not in front of it ?
Bob
Better for what ? I don't know about you but i would rather let the filter do the work of mixing the on coming air with N20 . You can't tell me it doesn't work ...
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zxbob
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posted February 06, 2009 07:47 PM
Not saying it does'nt work Lee ..... what I hear is it was better to fog the entire
air box rather than drawing thru the air filter.
I dont know ~ hers is a small unit, only 40hp. (which is more than enough for her)
Bob
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posted February 06, 2009 08:03 PM
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O.K.
So when I was doing the N20 on Beths bike ~ I was told its better to spray after the
air filter, not in front of it ?
Bob
Better for what ? I don't know about you but i would rather let the filter do the work of mixing the on coming air with N20 . You can't tell me it doesn't work ...
do you think that could have been the reason that you only ganed 21hp over the 30+ that most everyone else gets?
Also when you did spray di it hit hard or was it smooth??
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posted February 06, 2009 08:38 PM
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O.K.
So when I was doing the N20 on Beths bike ~ I was told its better to spray after the
air filter, not in front of it ?
Bob
Better for what ? I don't know about you but i would rather let the filter do the work of mixing the on coming air with N20 . You can't tell me it doesn't work ...
do you think that could have been the reason that you only ganed 21hp over the 30+ that most everyone else gets?
Also when you did spray di it hit hard or was it smooth??
Sure could have some to do with it. ..Don't forget i had it set real rich and that killed some HP ....But i would rather have it mixed real well than lean out a hole and take out a motor ...If i needed more than 21 HP i could have upped the jet ... Yes it hits soft and that was what i was looking for ..No need for a controller ( Mo Money ) .. Plus the quicker you can get it on the spray faster you will go .....8.50s @ 163 on a 21 shot safely was what i was looking for .....
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posted February 06, 2009 09:00 PM
When adding a small shot of NOS does it deteriorate engine parts sooner?
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01smokes
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posted February 06, 2009 09:03 PM
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O.K.
So when I was doing the N20 on Beths bike ~ I was told its better to spray after the
air filter, not in front of it ?
Bob
Better for what ? I don't know about you but i would rather let the filter do the work of mixing the on coming air with N20 . You can't tell me it doesn't work ...
do you think that could have been the reason that you only ganed 21hp over the 30+ that most everyone else gets?
Also when you did spray di it hit hard or was it smooth??
Sure could have some to do with it. ..Don't forget i had it set real rich and that killed some HP ....But i would rather have it mixed real well than lean out a hole and take out a motor ...If i needed more than 21 HP i could have upped the jet ... Yes it hits soft and that was what i was looking for ..No need for a controller ( Mo Money ) .. Plus the quicker you can get it on the spray faster you will go .....8.50s @ 163 on a 21 shot safely was what i was looking for .....
Thats what i think also ''smoother is faster''.
But i have already spent the money on a controller now i need a spray bar, im thinking of hitting it with a 40 starting off with about 30% for about 2 seconds than hit the full 40 after that
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posted February 06, 2009 09:15 PM
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When adding a small shot of NOS does it deteriorate engine parts sooner?
Yes ......... Anytime you add power past the factory build limits it will shorten the live span .... Let say a stock motor is good for ( pick a number ) 8,000 miles , now add spray ( 40 shot ) it could cause you only to get 6,000 miles out of that same motor ...None of that is wrote in stone because no two motors are them same ..
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posted February 06, 2009 09:22 PM
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O.K.
So when I was doing the N20 on Beths bike ~ I was told its better to spray after the
air filter, not in front of it ?
Bob
Better for what ? I don't know about you but i would rather let the filter do the work of mixing the on coming air with N20 . You can't tell me it doesn't work ...
do you think that could have been the reason that you only ganed 21hp over the 30+ that most everyone else gets?
Also when you did spray di it hit hard or was it smooth??
Sure could have some to do with it. ..Don't forget i had it set real rich and that killed some HP ....But i would rather have it mixed real well than lean out a hole and take out a motor ...If i needed more than 21 HP i could have upped the jet ... Yes it hits soft and that was what i was looking for ..No need for a controller ( Mo Money ) .. Plus the quicker you can get it on the spray faster you will go .....8.50s @ 163 on a 21 shot safely was what i was looking for .....
Thats what i think also ''smoother is faster''.
But i have already spent the money on a controller now i need a spray bar, im thinking of hitting it with a 40 starting off with about 30% for about 2 seconds than hit the full 40 after that
Sounds cool .. Please let us all know how it works when you get it all set up ... I have a spray bar and controller for jesses bike to install , looks like a cool set up from Colby Adams .. We had a Muzzy spray bar on Jesses bike before and i really didn't care for the way it has made , it didn't shoot spray in to the throttle bodys like the Adams unit does ..
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posted February 06, 2009 09:37 PM
some guys say it will freeze up the air filter and clog it from water vapour found in the normal incoming air. my bike went faster with it tho...picked up 4mph on top of 157 with a .028 pill :idontknow
ill be testing a .040 pill on dads bike this yr spraying in the ram air tubes. the LM1 and time slips will tell the tale
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posted February 06, 2009 09:44 PM
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some guys say it will freeze up the air filter and clog it from water vapour found in the normal incoming air. my bike went faster with it tho...picked up 4mph on top of 157 with a .028 pill :idontknow
ill be testing a .040 pill on dads bike this yr spraying in the ram air tubes. the LM1 and time slips will tell the tale
I guess that is possible Scott ...I could see that happening with a stock type filter but not with a BMC race filter because it's not much of a filter ...I picked up 9 MPH with it and i felt that was pretty good for so small of a shot ..
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KZScott
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posted February 06, 2009 10:12 PM
i was spraying thru K&Ns, and pulled a bunch of timing on 91 octane. didnt have much time to play with it. i hit the revlimiter after a few passes and spit a shim. no dyno tuning, so it wasnt at full potential imo.
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00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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