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posted February 02, 2009 11:14 AM        
sprocket cover

i am by means no mechanic, and have changed quite a few sprockets on different bikes, but i cant seem to get the cover off of the 14... is there anything im missing????? took 4 8mm bolts out of cover, and i dont see anymore that could be holding it on, but it will not budge!! any quick advice would be appreciated
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posted February 02, 2009 12:49 PM        Edited By: NINJA12 on 2 Feb 2009 20:49
yeap one of the bolts on the slave is the problem.
I believe its the top bolt.

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posted February 02, 2009 01:46 PM        
Loosen the clutch slave bolts.
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posted February 02, 2009 02:20 PM        
yup, there is a long slave bolt in the group that holds it up.
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posted February 02, 2009 05:26 PM        
Yeah only one of the slave bolts needs to be taken off if you want to leave the cover hanging in your way. Or remove them all and pop the slave out, which makes the gear change much easier. I did the same thing the first time I pulled the front cover
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eklipse636


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posted February 03, 2009 05:51 AM        
thanks guys for the info! will get started on it in a few min
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eklipse636


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posted February 03, 2009 09:56 AM        
Its the top slave bolt that holds the cover on, but now I have no pressure on my clutch, that shouldn't happen since I didn't take the. Slave off the cover should it?? And yea I'm on my 3rd trip to the 3rd parts store trying to find a deep socket
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eklipse636


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posted February 03, 2009 01:58 PM        
cant figure out why theres no pressure on clutch, anyone got any advice????
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posted February 03, 2009 06:36 PM        
What do you mean you have no pressure? Did you open the bleeder ?
What else did you take off?

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posted February 03, 2009 06:41 PM        Edited By: Shane661 on 4 Feb 2009 02:42
Once you remove the cover (even with slave attached), you should not squeeze the clutch lever.

It will extend the piston and you will possibly end up having to bleed the system.

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eklipse636


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posted February 03, 2009 06:54 PM        
sorry for no explaining that better, i was on my cell phone. when you pulled the clutch in, it had no pressure (wouldnt disenguage the clutch) but i took it back apaprt and put the cover back on and now it feels better, but dosent feel right to me. havent got much riding time at all here lately, so i cant tell if its my mind playin tricks on me, but still feels a little off. we bled the bottom twice, and no air, just straight fluid.... so no air is in there that i can tell. i have no experience with a slave cylinder...
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eklipse636


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posted February 03, 2009 06:54 PM        
now it feels like it wants to grab instantly instead of slipping the little that it did before,
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posted February 03, 2009 07:03 PM        
Probably needs more bleeding.
When you add fluid make sure to let any air settle out before you bleed.

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Bawls


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posted February 03, 2009 07:14 PM        
If you can't get it to bleed all the way, Try leaving the cover cracked open overnight. any bubbles that are left in the line will eventually work their way to the top.
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posted February 03, 2009 08:45 PM        
I use a mighty vac, I found the 14 a biotch to bleed without one when I put all the stainless lines on my bike.
and always seal the fluid from atmosphere , as brake fluid is (hydroscopic? ) absorbs moisture , even from the air. This will make it acidic, and lower the boiling point of the fluid... maybe not so critical with the clutch, but a BIG NO NO to leave brake fluid unsealed...

I also found the clutch fluid on thes bikes gets contaminated and discolored pretty quick, and it should probably be flushed annually.
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posted February 03, 2009 11:02 PM        
quote:
sorry for no explaining that better, i was on my cell phone. when you pulled the clutch in, it had no pressure (wouldnt disenguage the clutch) but i took it back apaprt and put the cover back on and now it feels better, but dosent feel right to me. havent got much riding time at all here lately, so i cant tell if its my mind playin tricks on me, but still feels a little off. we bled the bottom twice, and no air, just straight fluid.... so no air is in there that i can tell. i have no experience with a slave cylinder...


You should bleed the top up near the clutch handle also. That will fix it.
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eklipse636


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posted February 04, 2009 04:56 AM        
quote:
I use a mighty vac, I found the 14 a biotch to bleed without one when I put all the stainless lines on my bike.
and always seal the fluid from atmosphere , as brake fluid is (hydroscopic? ) absorbs moisture , even from the air. This will make it acidic, and lower the boiling point of the fluid... maybe not so critical with the clutch, but a BIG NO NO to leave brake fluid unsealed...

I also found the clutch fluid on thes bikes gets contaminated and discolored pretty quick, and it should probably be flushed annually.



You don't hear too much of people changing their clutch fluid, but I guess that would be a good idea while I am having a problem there, the high is going to be 40 today and in south ga that's pretty damn cold, so I will take it to the dealer and compare to another 14 clutch
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posted February 04, 2009 09:30 AM        
Good advise here with flushing your clutch fluid. If you keep the system sealed, as in not opening the reservoir or disconnection any section, you can go a few years without flushing. If you need to add fluid or disconnect anything it is best to flush and use a new, unopened container of fluid because as brake fluid absorbs water moisture from the air the water will deteriorate the internals and hamper performance. It is for reasons such as this that I never let anyone else work on my vehicles. You never know when some Bozo thinks it's best to top off the brake fluid because it's 10% down.
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