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Ninja_Knight


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posted January 14, 2009 04:56 PM        
Which Do You Like Best?

Should I get these Shogun Sliders which look real nice?
http://www.surfsidemoto.com/store/product/MOTSFSCK.html

Or these Sato Sliders because they are made with Delrin plastics?
http://www.hyperformanceparts.com/catalog/Sport-Bikes-Kawasaki-ZX14R-Frame-Sliders/c12_13_232/p4298/Sato-Frame-Sliders-20062007-Kawasaki-ZX14/product_info.html
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countersteer


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posted January 14, 2009 05:36 PM        Edited By: countersteer on 15 Jan 2009 01:36
as i recall, there was a problem with *some* frame slider mounting hardware - the bolts were so strong that in the event of a crash, theyd actually break off the mounting tabs in which they were attached to. dont remember which brands though.
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Shane661


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posted January 14, 2009 05:39 PM        
The problem with frame sliders for the 14 is that the slider is so long. It is a big lever attached to a casting. In the event that they take a hard hit, it is more likely to break the frame.

Shane

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WindSwordNinja


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posted January 14, 2009 05:41 PM        
The Shogun are really good looking however when I was reading up on sliders I found out that the function of plastic ones were more desireable.
Here is an excerpt from an article:
Frame Slider Material:

The choice of material used for the frame slider should be a balance of the following
3 requirements:

Abrasion Resistance - the material should be hard enough to be
able to slow the bike down in a slide and not be totally worn down to the bolt half
way through a slide

Structural Strength - the material should be strong but not brittle and snap off too
easily on impact

Energy Absorption-the material used should have some energy absorbing
properties but not be so hard that all impact forces are transmitted to the mounting
points or fasteners (solid steel or aluminum materials are examples of non-energy
absorbing materials).

Most high quality frame sliders today are made of some kind
of nylon or other for energy absorption and with aluminum inserts for strengthening
of the fastening points. The range of nylon types, with different levels of abrasion
resistance and "brittleness" used is also quite varied.

Hope this helps.
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Ninja14


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posted January 14, 2009 10:53 PM        Edited By: Ninja14 on 15 Jan 2009 06:55
The attach bolt is also a disposable(torque once) bolt.....so you must get a new one when installing the sliders.
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BobC


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posted January 15, 2009 04:54 AM        
I'm thinking like Shane. I would rather scuff the bodywork than tear a chunk out of the frame.
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Bawls


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posted January 15, 2009 06:01 AM        
if i break my frame then i get a new bike... i win lol
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Ninja_Knight


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posted January 15, 2009 01:18 PM        
I've searched the forum pretty thoroughly before making my thread and it seems that the consensus is that if you hit the ground at high speeds that your bike is basically worm food regardless. I was thinking more on the line if my bike got tipped over, or a very low speed fall.
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