Shane661
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posted January 08, 2009 02:14 PM
What are your 60 ft. times?
  
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chadszx14
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posted January 08, 2009 02:33 PM
well never mind on posting track times tomarrow... the track dont open back up untill the 31st of this month....im trying to find old time slips so i can post some of those times
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bawls
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posted January 08, 2009 04:06 PM
if your front tire is 2ft in the air, then you're not doing something right. You should be shooting for 6" to a foot at the most. Remember... It's all in the left hand. If you ever get a chance, take a trip down to florida and let smokin give you some coaching. He's in the high 8's off the bottle at 64" and running about the same times as you on a bone stock 09 zx14.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted January 08, 2009 05:50 PM
62". He ran a 6.15 last night on his stock wheelbase 09. He'll have it in the 5.9's next couple times out. 
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billeason
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posted January 08, 2009 05:51 PM
These guys know of what they speak Chad'' The numbers your running aren't bad,but two foot wheelies are killing your 60 foots. On a stk bottom end a good head and cams package will get you 200-210 hp on mrxo1 and 113 ft torque for about 3 grand,this is with springs,retainers,cams/ timed wright,milled head and a good valve job. This will net you nothing in et and about 5mph in the 1/4 until you learn to leave with the torque you already have. Im not nocking your riding abilities, the 14 just dont need this kind of extra power unless your running a specific class. Hell a small stg-1 nos build is about a grand and will show you 220 hp and ungodly torque numbers. These 14's run better then the power numbers would suggest...........
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chadszx14
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posted January 08, 2009 06:07 PM
well if thats the case should i invest in a lock up clutch since i will b needing to ride the clutch a little more out the gate? i hate replaceing fibers and steals...its not hard to do its just the money.. thats why i dont ride the clutch....i stage up and dump the clutch and hold on....lol
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smokinZX14
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posted January 08, 2009 06:18 PM
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well if thats the case should i invest in a lock up clutch since i will b needing to ride the clutch a little more out the gate? i hate replaceing fibers and steals...its not hard to do its just the money.. thats why i dont ride the clutch....i stage up and dump the clutch and hold on....lol
Chad no need to ride the clutch .... Im out of the clutch by the tree and at full throttle ... Most times i don't wheely but sometimes it will be up just a bit....It just takes a lot of seat time to get the feel , but once you do you will go faster ..
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Shane661
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posted January 08, 2009 06:20 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Jan 2009 02:31
You don't need to ride the clutch more...you are using way too much rpm. Launch at a lower rpm, get the clutch out fast, pin the throttle, and let the motor do the work.
Try 5k rpm, clutch out quickly, and pin the throttle. I am working to get the clutch and throttle work done in the 1st 60 feet. It should be even easier for you, since you have more wheelbase.
I have 16/45 gearing and have run 5.98 in the 1/8th leaving at under 5k rpm. And remember, I am as big as you are.
I'm still learning, but this is what is working for me.
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Bawls
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posted January 08, 2009 06:37 PM
This was a 1.64 60ft at stock wheelbase with nothing but a strap and bones.
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KSPZ3
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posted January 08, 2009 07:43 PM
Competition Heads, Cams , Heavy Vavle springs = 3MPH in the 1/8, 3MPH in Quarter and 15 on the dyno.... best I can figure.
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KawaBonzai
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posted January 08, 2009 08:31 PM
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sticks N stones does your bike ever try to run hot?
I've had 2 Zx-14's an 08 and an 09. I've run both with flies in, and flies out. I did NOT notice any change in Temp after removing the flies. 80% of my riding is commute to work. 20% in the canyons.
On the street I run 1 bar from max (~190?) and on the highway/canyons I run 2-3 bars from max (~170-185?).
Did I mention I live in Southern Arizona? Welcome to 120 degree's in the summer.
Quit being undecisive about pulling the flies and ditching the Tre's, do it! and then come back here and tell us how much you like it.
The $7.00 mod (Klein #2 phillips at Lowes) is way better than a Tre.
I'd wager you could possibly close that 2 bike lead of the Busa's to perhaps less than one just by making that change alone. Top end horsepower wont change much but getting a jump earlier in the track just might.
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bawls
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posted January 08, 2009 08:38 PM
How are your reaction times... there are a lot of people that et better than me but I beat them at the light. If you can pull .0somethings you'll have a pretty big advantage over most.
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chadszx14
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posted January 08, 2009 08:46 PM
yea my reactions are good.. thats why i was so stomped about my ET's....they are usually a .05 something to a .07 something and lol at kawibonza about the 7 dollar mod at lows....haha............my bike has been custome maped.. i never used any maps from muzzy brocks or anything......star racing G2 squared motrsports has done my maping.......if i take the flies out will i have to get it retuned?
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rACeRs
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posted January 08, 2009 09:08 PM
Maybe your custom map is the problem? A lot of people here are running very impressive times with brocks maps.
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kawboy81
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posted January 08, 2009 10:12 PM
and dont forget to take a soldering gun n heat the lil screws when taking the flies out. it makes it much easier and remember to press down as u turn em or u WILL strip them.
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chadszx14
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posted January 09, 2009 05:25 AM
how do i get a brocks or muzzy map? would a brocks map work with a muzzys exhaust? does it cost anything to get these maps?..........does any 1 know what would happen if i took the flies out and left the tree hooked up?....just currious
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Shane661
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posted January 09, 2009 05:54 AM
If you remove the flies I can give you my map (It was given to me from another member here). I've run 148 mph in the 1/4, 120 in the 1/8th with it. I have the M14 Muzzy, BMC Race filter, and pcusb.
Shane
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chadszx14
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posted January 09, 2009 06:01 AM
sweet... is it a custom map or a name brand map?
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Shane661
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posted January 09, 2009 06:02 AM
It was done with a Wideband Commander, for a Muzzy M14 exhaust.
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bawls
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posted January 09, 2009 06:06 AM
If you pull your flies then there is no reason to have the tre because you can't open the flies sooner if they're not there.
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chadszx14
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posted January 09, 2009 07:54 AM
yea i figured that....lol....when i bought the bike everything was already on it, all i did was took it to get tuned on the dyno........ what goes inplace of the tre when i unplug it.....it looks like if i were to unplug the tre there should b something to plug up to the wire that u just unhooked the tre from......????
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posted January 09, 2009 06:43 PM
Chad seems too me your comming out of the hole too high. You shouldnt have to tach it that high on a 14 to get out of the hole. try comming out around 2000rpm -3000rpm and getting the clutch out faster and then hammering the throttle.Correct me if i wrong but I think that TRE is prohibiting you from doing that??
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bawls
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posted January 10, 2009 06:28 AM
No it's not... it's allowing him to take off like he would on an 08/09 14... anyone who has ever ridden an 06/07 flies in 14 at the track can attest to the "fucking unicycle" affect that the flies have when you hit 6k lol. I've had a lot of good launches ruined by the flies.
I'm trying a different plan of attack today, but with stock gearing and stock pipes I HAD to launch out at 4500 rpm or higher depending on the density altitude and track prep of the day. If I tried to launch out soft and get into the throttle early my bike would bog and the run would be botched. Might have been something to do with the 90 degree air and 5000ft da though lol. (This is at stock wheelbase, stock pipes, stock gearing, no flies, no mapping, lowered 1.25" rear and 1" front and with a strap kit)
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Sticks_n_Stones
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posted January 10, 2009 07:02 AM
Off topic, but oh well: Just wanted to give Bawls a kudos for jumping in with both feet to racing. Even though its not my sport, it's always nice to see someone with his enthusiasm!
Chadszx14, sounds like that also applies to you! Now if I could just get all of you into racing on the twisty track.... lol
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gsxrassassin
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posted January 10, 2009 05:11 PM
Here's the best link I could find on porting the ZX-14's head and getting good results. Hope it helps.
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=3299&z=2
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