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I know enough to spot a loud mouth, ignorant bullshiter when I smell one. I've read your earliest posts on this board and know that you are really NOT the asshole you appear to be in this thread so I'll refrain from totally fucking you up verbally in this post. You once were a knowledge hungry informational sponge learning from those on here who knew (and still know) more than you or I. However you took what you read and ran off the deep end with the information, adding every "gee-wiz" mod there is to add to your bike without ever doing your OWN experimentation or learning anything for yourself through trial and error. I actually feel bad for you watching you live and ride in the shadow of those "better" than you.
Hopefully one day when you mature and gain some self confidence, you'll believe enough in your OWN abilities to strike out and "do your own thing". Then you'll be able to truely enjoy what riding and modding is all about. Being a fabricator and not a follower is infinitely more enjoyable!

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Chain lube? What did you buy that for? Why not just run the chain as-is until you can draw your own conclusions about wear? I hear it is cheaper and much less clean-up. Sure, some of the idiots here claim it is not good for the chain...but I'm not so sure!

I remember old Mr. Barnslow putting Crisco on his Roto-Tiller chain...and that thing lasted forever!

He also used Crisco exclusively on his Banshee.



Shane

PS. Do whatever makes you happy! Just enjoy the bike!

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I know enough to spot a loud mouth, ignorant bullshiter when I smell one. I've read your earliest posts on this board and know that you are really NOT the asshole you appear to be in this thread so I'll refrain from totally fucking you up verbally in this post. You once were a knowledge hungry informational sponge learning from those on here who knew (and still know) more than you or I. However you took what you read and ran off the deep end with the information, adding every "gee-wiz" mod there is to add to your bike without ever doing your OWN experimentation or learning anything for yourself through trial and error. I actually feel bad for you watching you live and ride in the shadow of those "better" than you.
Hopefully one day when you mature and gain some self confidence, you'll believe enough in your OWN abilities to strike out and "do your own thing". Then you'll be able to truely enjoy what riding and modding is all about. Being a fabricator and not a follower is infinitely more enjoyable!

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first of all, my zx12r was a full blown custom before i even registered here, and you will not see another zx12r like it. secondly, i was the FIRST member here to have a no flies stock exhaust map - i paid to have it dyno tuned before anyone and there are many members here running MY map. yes, i am 25 and yes i bought my first bike (zx12r) May 1, 2003 - which has been a trial and error project since day one. i do my own work except when it comes down to the motor, and i ride the fucking wheels off of both my bikes.

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Chain lube? What did you buy that for? Why not just run the chain as-is until you can draw your own conclusions about wear? I hear it is cheaper and much less clean-up. Sure, some of the idiots here claim it is not good for the chain...but I'm not so sure!

I remember old Mr. Barnslow putting Crisco on his Roto-Tiller chain...and that thing lasted forever!

He also used Crisco exclusively on his Banshee.



Shane

PS. Do whatever makes you happy! Just enjoy the bike!

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Excuse me but wasn't it YOU who said, "i have been a forum spy on zx-12.org and bikeland for several YEARS, and only decided to create accounts recently- because it is time you all saw where the knowledge you shared went. you guys, between both bikeland and zx-12.org, taught me 99% of everything i know." ???? In your own words you gained ALL your "knowledge" HERE. Or perhaps it was that one percent that is responsible?

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....you would know that a pc3 is a REQUIREMENT.

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actually, i think you should keep riding it without a power commander as you definetly do not need one.

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actually, i think you should keep riding it without a power commander as you definetly do not need one.

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you are proving my point when i said that ^
you are going to do whatever youre going to do. you and your dealer obviously know that the entire zx14 community is wrong about this issue- a topic that has been fucking beaten to death mercilessly for years now. so keep riding without a pc3 - i dont give a fuck what you do.

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Nah, I'm sure that he's just as much of a douche nozzle in person as he is on the boards. :P I would be an asshole too though if I had to live with the fact that I stole my paintjob from something out of lowrider magazine lol.

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nyc, read brock's zx-14 diaries and it will give you some additional insight into the brief but possibly harmful lean spike that would occur when you pull the flies without remapping. it may survive without remapping, but you won't get the full benefit of the fly removal. as for 08s and 09s they probably have less of an issue due to the documented increased richness of the mixture noted in the later years. the later year bikes flies open sooner and the stock map is closer, but still not optimal. to sum it up you may put your bike at risk by pulling the flies and remapping. to me 300 bucks is a small price to pay to make the bike run stronger and keep the motor safe. the folks on this site do know their shit. have a good one.

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It's funny how all I asked was how to remove the secondary butterflys, and it turned into all of this.
And here I was afraid that I wouldn't get any responses to my simple question. LOL

Hey Fastest Busa how did you advance your timing 4 degrees?
Is it mechanical or electrical, and is it linear or variable throughout the RPM range?

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