butta4hc
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posted October 29, 2008 05:08 PM
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I can't see the pic in the second photo, what gives?
Just kidding.
Where and how much? For those who don't have a computer to blur out their plates before posting, this is a great tool. 
http://www.flashalert.com/eclipse.htm
If someone hasn't beaten me to it, lol.
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butta4hc
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posted October 29, 2008 05:10 PM
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Can you share with us how this is done?
does the glass turns black or is there a moving black screen inside the frame which covers the license plate???
i wonder if it's really the glass itself turning black???
he might be in jail after posting his real tag # on the net :P
LCD screen. It's like turning a TV off except the screen goes white and I still have my freedom so far, lol.
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Tool Man
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posted October 30, 2008 04:31 PM
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Hey, Toolman.
You may have let the cat out of the bag there - and maybe we can both be rich!
So just between the two of us.
Don't welders helmets have to react 'pretty damn' fast to a high intensity light source?
Well, what would happen if you put a welders visor (with the electronics and battery), over a licence plate and then when a Speed Camera or Red Light Camera flashes you - won't it automatically darken once it 'detects' a flash
I mean, it's gotta be that quick a reaction to save a humans eyes right? You can even set the intensity level anyway on the higher models, so adjustment is there.
Even more so, why not buy a welders helmet with such features, remove the lens assembly and with a bit of 'investigative' work, get a switch wired up to activate the 'blank out' manualy?
Humm, methinks a patent is forthcoming... No one reply, while i email my solicitor..... 
I can see my new boat, right now......
Ya I have thought the same... They would flash the light BEFORE taking the picture. I'm sure that it is timed a few fractions of a second after the flash.
A good quality helmet will darken in 1/100 of a second after it recieves input light above that of the set threshold. They are adjustable for senstivity.
In theory.... it could work. Need some numbers not available yet.
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Obba
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posted October 31, 2008 01:30 AM
Hi Tool Man. I waited for your reply...
Yeah, ok. Have a look at this ebay item 130263640958 . It's in Aus, but the USA ones have slightly smaller viewers, but who knows - just some marketing gimmick i guess.
4" by 2" is to small i think. But for US$30, who knows what you could with 2 lens's?
This helmet is reporting 1/25,000 of a sec reaction time and if you go through the other helmets in US, it can range from 10,000 and so on.
You are correct that a flash must first 'light the subject', before the aperture is opened - so the negative plate is exposed.
But i couldn't find any figures as to the timing.
Most hi-tech SLR/DSL cameras will have the flash timing set to the distance of the image to be taken.
But all fixed 'cough - cough' "nasty" cameras are pre set. I don't think it would take a lot of work to look at the distance the camera is calibrated to take a nice clear shot of - as the speeding car goes through the speeding sensor.
So the distance of the camera lens is fixed. So the flash must (or might), have a fixed intenisty, depending on lighting conditions.
However, since the electronics are on-board these helmets, it should be able to work out how to do it manualy.
1/25,000th of a sec looks (no proof yet), quick enough.
*** just heard from a mate in England that there was a company doing such a 'react' system. Whereby it flashed back at the flash! But as you might guess, the gov closed them down and made it illegal to seel such products.
So it is possible to have 'somehting' sense a 'flash' and react accordingly!
Hoprfully somone on this site may make a prototype. And then TM we can be rich, beyond our wildest dreams......
Cheers.
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Tool Man
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posted October 31, 2008 04:19 AM
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And then TM we can be rich, beyond our wildest dreams......
Cheers.
Well I like that part
I did mean 1/1000 of a secand , but it seems they are even faster than that
So.. we need numbers on flash to aperture timing, then maybe a prototype is in order.
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butta4hc
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posted October 31, 2008 08:24 AM
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And then TM we can be rich, beyond our wildest dreams......
Cheers.
Ummm...I'm gonna need some type of finder's fee for all this. In addition, some bail money for when they come and rip me out of my home for my big bad illegal plate, LMAO!!!!
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Obba
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posted October 31, 2008 10:07 PM
As i have never used a welders helmet, some pics i have seen seem to show a clear glass. Some tinted green.
If so, it wouldn't be that hard to put something 'visable' like a coke can inside the helmet so you could see it through the visor - from the outside - then take a photo with the flash on.
If the picture comes out showing the coke can, then DOH!
But, if the visor plate has blanked out and coke can is not seen, then maybe WooHoo!
All the other testign would be finding out the distance of the fixed nasty cameras and take a shot from the same distance.
I dare say that the flash intensity would be parrallel with any 'nasty' camera setups - as it's only taking a photo as you are...
So com'n TM, out with the helmets, your camera with a flash and a coke can. Then let us all know how it went....
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Tool Man
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posted November 01, 2008 01:07 PM
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So com'n TM, out with the helmets, your camera with a flash and a coke can. Then let us all know how it went....
OK....I'll do it . I have 2 helmets and will try some X - periments
No flash
Flash
distance
Ect.
My thinking is that my digital cam prolly has about the same pre flash timing.
So ... we will see 
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