boxcar
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posted October 27, 2008 02:56 PM
Anyone having nay reliability issues with flies out on an 08?
Been reading the forums for the past few months and still can't make up my mind, I have extended warranty which was thrown in with the bike for free. I want to keep stock exhaust as loud bikes around here tend to cause trouble. Also I have noticed most people say it's best to get a custom map made for flies out. Being from Newfoundland, Canada having a custom map made is not going to happen as to the best of my knowledge there are no tuners here. So my question is this, is anyone having issues using a stock exhaust map from Dynojet website with no flies and is it worth giving up my warranty if I want to stick with stock cans or should I just go with 16T sprocket up front for the low end pull I want. Thanks for the help.
  
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Jus Cruisin
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posted October 27, 2008 03:05 PM
It would surprise me you would lose your warranty with removing your secondary flies. BUT... I took mine out and the bike was not happy. I tried a couple of "flies out" canned maps and none felt good. I put mine back in. The stock exhaust is killing your performance. I got 15 hp gains with both Muzzy M10(too loud for me) and my current Yoshimura.
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boxcar
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posted October 27, 2008 03:09 PM
What kind of Yoshi you running Cruisin? I like the look of dual cans is the other major issue with switching exhaust, you have full system or slip ons? How loud you find it by the way?
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Jus Cruisin
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posted October 27, 2008 03:16 PM
Here ya go. It is actually quieter than I like but I couldn't handle the M10 - very loud.
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reward69
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posted October 27, 2008 03:29 PM
I've got an 08' with flies out and a brocks smeg. No issues here, the pipe is a little on the loud side, but the bike runs great. You will need to make sure that you get a map that compensates for the flies being out or you will have a lean condition at 4 to 5K. I would suggest a brocks GenIII exhaust, his maps work great and will give you others if you need it.
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derpie
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posted October 27, 2008 05:10 PM
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Here ya go. It is actually quieter than I like but I couldn't handle the M10 - very loud.
Pull those baffles out of those yoshi"s and hear what its really supposed to sound like.
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dbeadling
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posted October 27, 2008 05:30 PM
06 here flies out brock pipe and power commander and brock map...what a hoot...will never go back .the bike runs great.........no problems. pipe is loud only if you want it to be. take it easy and you will have happy neighbors and police plus lose 30 lbs and gain a pile of h/p
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Bad in Black
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posted October 27, 2008 05:42 PM
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Been reading the forums for the past few months and still can't make up my mind, I have extended warranty which was thrown in with the bike for free. I want to keep stock exhaust as loud bikes around here tend to cause trouble. Also I have noticed most people say it's best to get a custom map made for flies out. Being from Newfoundland, Canada having a custom map made is not going to happen as to the best of my knowledge there are no tuners here. So my question is this, is anyone having issues using a stock exhaust map from Dynojet website with no flies and is it worth giving up my warranty if I want to stick with stock cans or should I just go with 16T sprocket up front for the low end pull I want. Thanks for the help.
From what I've heard removing the flies on an 08 doesn't do much if anything. The 08's are supposedly down on hp to the 06-07's because of overly rich mapping. According to some tuners just a pc on a bone stock 08 with a map tuned for performance instead of emmissions will give you more power 
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derpie
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posted October 27, 2008 05:56 PM
yeah but what's performance if it sounds like a 250r ???
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FastestBusaAround
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posted October 27, 2008 07:01 PM
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Been reading the forums for the past few months and still can't make up my mind, I have extended warranty which was thrown in with the bike for free. I want to keep stock exhaust as loud bikes around here tend to cause trouble. Also I have noticed most people say it's best to get a custom map made for flies out. Being from Newfoundland, Canada having a custom map made is not going to happen as to the best of my knowledge there are no tuners here. So my question is this, is anyone having issues using a stock exhaust map from Dynojet website with no flies and is it worth giving up my warranty if I want to stick with stock cans or should I just go with 16T sprocket up front for the low end pull I want. Thanks for the help.
From what I've heard removing the flies on an 08 doesn't do much if anything. The 08's are supposedly down on hp to the 06-07's because of overly rich mapping. According to some tuners just a pc on a bone stock 08 with a map tuned for performance instead of emmissions will give you more power
What a load of fucking shit -- look at my sig. These "tuners" you speak of -- they probably can't install a fucking spark plug, leave alone tune an engine...my 08 is very fast and pulls harder than my 06 did...-- do you have an 08? I've had 2 ZX14's and a C14. Over 40k miles between the 2 ZX's.
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Bad in Black
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posted October 27, 2008 07:27 PM
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Been reading the forums for the past few months and still can't make up my mind, I have extended warranty which was thrown in with the bike for free. I want to keep stock exhaust as loud bikes around here tend to cause trouble. Also I have noticed most people say it's best to get a custom map made for flies out. Being from Newfoundland, Canada having a custom map made is not going to happen as to the best of my knowledge there are no tuners here. So my question is this, is anyone having issues using a stock exhaust map from Dynojet website with no flies and is it worth giving up my warranty if I want to stick with stock cans or should I just go with 16T sprocket up front for the low end pull I want. Thanks for the help.
From what I've heard removing the flies on an 08 doesn't do much if anything. The 08's are supposedly down on hp to the 06-07's because of overly rich mapping. According to some tuners just a pc on a bone stock 08 with a map tuned for performance instead of emmissions will give you more power
What a load of fucking shit -- look at my sig. These "tuners" you speak of -- they probably can't install a fucking spark plug, leave alone tune an engine...my 08 is very fast and pulls harder than my 06 did...-- do you have an 08? I've had 2 ZX14's and a C14. Over 40k miles between the 2 ZX's.
I was talking about stock for stock there bonehead....work on your reading comprehension d*mbf*ck. And one of those tuners is Rob Muzzy Mr. Jumpto Conclusions. And yep I own a 14 or I wouldn't be here I see how this forum rolls...kinda like Labusa eh? Fine by me...I can dish PLENTY of sh*t out as well as take it bigmouth lol Bring it on you sorry sack of sh*t
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rACeRs
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posted October 27, 2008 10:02 PM
wow someone a bit touchy? 
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BobC
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posted October 28, 2008 12:58 AM
Can't see why a properly installed PC keeping the A/F ratio correct with flies out would invalidate the warranty. Isn't it going to depend on how you use the bike? For example If you blew the engine up racing then it might be a different story, or if you tuned it and it spat you off.
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boxcar
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posted October 28, 2008 01:49 AM
Okay, lots of replies and opinions, as for my other question, as I can't get to a tuner to have a map made is the stock map on dynojets site good enough for a flies out bike with stock cans or would I have to try and make something work? Basically I don't want to spend a couple hundred $ on a PCIII and not be able to get the thing running properly without swapping exhaust.
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Bad in Black
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posted October 28, 2008 02:03 AM
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wow someone a bit touchy?
Nah....I actually enjoy flinging crap. I could do it all day long Its just not too often I come across a jackhole who deserves it. But I get lucky once in awhile  Is Mr. FastestBusauptheass always that much of a prick? I hope so, cause he's going to be fun to f*ck with LOL
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Hurricane
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posted October 28, 2008 02:30 PM
I had the dealer take my flies out and install a pcIII. As long as they did the work, they would honor my extended warranty. They charged me $120.00 total labor. It was well worth it.
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