kawabonzai
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posted September 29, 2008 11:34 PM
Does the can really matter?
So ...
I'm still breaking in the Green machine and I'm almost loving the quietness of ride with the stock exhaust compared to the mighty decibels of the M14 / M10 combo.
It got me to thinking ... does the can on the end really matter ... in HorsePower gain/loss.
I remember Brock stating that it was only a 1-2 hp gain by going from oval/carbon to the SMEG or AlienHead.
With this new 09 being "Candy Lime Green / Black", I thought a Muzzy M14 header with their Carbon can would look nice, in keeping with the Green/Black theme.
Anyonehave stats on cans, or is all the power gain from the header alone?
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smokinzx14
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posted September 30, 2008 06:31 AM
The front part of the header has the most to do with making power . The can has the smallest to do with HP ...If i had a problem with my bike being to loud ( and I don't ) I would get Brocks Gen 3 with the oval can ...
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KawaBonzai
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posted September 30, 2008 08:20 AM
Brock Gen3 + Oval Can > Muzzy M14 + Oval Carbon on th HP front?
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gilberjj
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posted September 30, 2008 10:09 AM
Here are two bikes done by Greg at HPC (Hyperbike Performance Centers). They both have blacked out Ti-Force exhausts, and look great. Ti-Force makes great power as well, and they are pretty quiet.
This combo would look smoking hot on a green 09!!!!!!
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Superman T
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posted September 30, 2008 11:22 AM
gilberjj & kawabonzai- Both of those TForce exhaust looks awesome! Outside of ceramic coating my Brocks S-meg, I would easily pick this exhaust instead...I wonder what kind of gains they give. Keeping that pipe black really flows well cosmetically with most of our 14s(The white limited edition maybe exempt). I concur, that pipe with your Green/Black 09 14 will be killer!!!!
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smokehouse4444
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posted September 30, 2008 12:17 PM
That yellow and black 14 in the background looks cool, too. Can we see more of it?
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gilberjj
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posted September 30, 2008 01:00 PM
the yellow and black is gregs new 14 (the red one is now the yellow one). You can find out more by joining zx14.net
here it is with cst carbon fiber wheels
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countersteer
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posted September 30, 2008 02:50 PM
powdercoated a ti exhaust huh?
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Bently
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posted September 30, 2008 02:54 PM
My vote goes to Brocks gen 3 can, that's what I just put on my new 06 and it has a very melow sound but runs just as good at the track as my smeg did.
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posted September 30, 2008 03:40 PM
 Edited By: flyboy on 1 Oct 2008 00:14
I was once told that the loudness of one's exhaust or the height of his truck is inversely proportional to the size of his penis--
That's why I have the "mini-me" smeg--
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Bently
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posted September 30, 2008 03:57 PM
Anyone know who did the seat on the yellow and black 14?
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posted September 30, 2008 04:05 PM
Hey Gil, I have to crack a joke here...
It's a good thing this site isnt operated like Psychobike, since your advertising for a guy that doesnt advertise on this site  then this post would get deleted...
Gregs good people, you tell him I said so!!!
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bigdtd
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posted September 30, 2008 04:11 PM
quote:
Hey Gil, I have to crack a joke here...
It's a good thing this site isnt operated like Psychobike, since your advertising for a guy that doesnt advertise on this site then this post would get deleted...
this site rocks!!!
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gilberjj
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posted September 30, 2008 05:41 PM
i could care less where people buy their stuff..... for technical things, i come here, and i check out zx14.net too. i have no ties to them, and i simply posted pics and told ppl where they were from. and "countersteer", the exhausts are ceramic coated, not powdercoated. it cuts down on the heat
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johns
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posted September 30, 2008 07:34 PM
Edited By: johns on 1 Oct 2008 03:35
When Brian at Quantum did my ZX-14 the final tuning was done with my Brock street oval system. Out of curiosity we tried fitting a street meg. Final result was no change in HP or TQ. The dyno curves were practically identical. Less noise same power, thats a winner in my book.
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KawaBonzai
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posted October 01, 2008 10:54 AM
quote:
When Brian at Quantum did my ZX-14 the final tuning was done with my Brock street oval system. Out of curiosity we tried fitting a street meg. Final result was no change in HP or TQ. The dyno curves were practically identical. Less noise same power, thats a winner in my book.
Brock's states the same thing himself. The can does not matter. Everything bolted up to the ehader produced within 1hp. of each other.
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posted October 01, 2008 12:45 PM
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Anyone know who did the seat on the yellow and black 14?
Bently, i don't know whom did Greggs, But theres a guy on the suzukihaybusa.org board that does them which looks like that. He can do it if you contact them.
he does a real nice job. Tobin , screen name is Pa Freaks I believe. Try this link & call him http://www.tobinseats.com/
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warbird
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posted October 01, 2008 01:45 PM
Edited By: warbird on 1 Oct 2008 21:46
Assist............... 
http://www.tobinseats.com
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warbird
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posted October 01, 2008 02:12 PM
Wow...........sweet! I bet that ends your search for a nice seat Bently! Very well done............ 
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posted October 01, 2008 02:14 PM
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posted October 01, 2008 02:15 PM
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posted October 01, 2008 02:16 PM
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posted October 02, 2008 12:05 AM
quote:
Hey Gil, I have to crack a joke here...
It's a good thing this site isnt operated like Psychobike, since your advertising for a guy that doesnt advertise on this site then this post would get deleted...
Gregs good people, you tell him I said so!!!
What a coincidence......thats how zx14.net operates as well. Hi Greg 
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