Scalded Dawg
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posted September 04, 2008 04:11 PM
 Edited By: Scalded Dawg on 4 Sep 2008 17:29
How do you take out the "flies"
Are there any write ups about doing this? Are there two sets of butterflies? Is that why they ae also called the secondaries?
Are there any draw backs?
Anybody got any pics? Service manual doesnt have any pics close enough of the throttle bodies for me to figure out what is what?
I have a PCiii and a TRE008, air shifter, and toying with the idea of a Spider NOS. I think I have read that the TRE has to go, or is useless with the files out.
Wanting to learn as much about this process as I can, before I start wrenching.
This is my first FI bike, so I got a little to learn about the fuel/air management.
Thanks
  
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countersteer
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posted September 04, 2008 04:27 PM
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obba
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posted September 04, 2008 04:37 PM
You won't find thing on this site about removing flies.
I'm pretty sure no one has done it. Looks like your the first to have a go.
Post some pics so that we can see how you went.
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Kawabonzai
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posted September 04, 2008 04:46 PM
Lot's of info here ...
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=24193
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06redzx14
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posted September 04, 2008 05:51 PM
really simple long #2 screwdriver use a soldering iron to heat the screws or take a ride then remove them
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countersteer
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posted September 04, 2008 06:30 PM
so how would applying heat with a soldering iron have the same effect as cool air rushing over the screw heads while riding?
anyway, i find this "flies" concept very interesting, ill have to read more about it. are there any published articles from scientific journals, peer reviews or graduate dissertations i could research to help support this "flies" theory? any science or engineering professionals please explain, i am not sure i understand. thanks!
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fifth
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posted September 04, 2008 07:44 PM
This one time a Kawasaki camp, I just used a #6 fly swatter.......
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obba
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posted September 04, 2008 10:09 PM
I think this is the answer.
http://www.nomoreflies.com/
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reggiegroober
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posted September 05, 2008 01:51 AM
CS,
The secondaries, or commonly reffed to "flies". are not flys as such, they are in fact mosquitios that Kawasaki has infected with the asian fuckilovemybike virus. By removing the flies, you are in fact making a sick bike sicker. Noticable symtoms include, harder acceleration, better torque and improved fuel comsumption. If the virus spreads to the rider, which has been known to happen, look out for the following signs, big dopey grin after a ride (this may last for several hours, or even a couple of days), reluctance to take the cage over the bike, increased longing to ride. If you notice these symtoms it is usually to late. The rider has been infected and is fast becoming an addict. The only known cure is 400 miles of unpoliced road and a prepaid fuel card.
You have been warned, removing the flies may cause addiction
Reggie
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posted September 05, 2008 03:49 AM
Scalded,
Sorry, these guys can be sarcastic at times. This topic has been talked to death about on this sight. There is a thread with detailed instructions and pics posted by a member, and if I find it, I'll post it later. Here is a pretty detailed article by Brock regarding the TRE v. fly removal (it's also posted on his website brocksperformance.com).
http://www.bikeland.org/story.php?storyID=24810
Fly removal with full exhaust/pc/correct map will give you a condition known as "permagrin."
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street racer
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posted September 05, 2008 04:13 AM
quote:
CS,
The secondaries, or commonly reffed to "flies". are not flys as such, they are in fact mosquitios that Kawasaki has infected with the asian fuckilovemybike virus. By removing the flies, you are in fact making a sick bike sicker. Noticable symtoms include, harder acceleration, better torque and improved fuel comsumption. If the virus spreads to the rider, which has been known to happen, look out for the following signs, big dopey grin after a ride (this may last for several hours, or even a couple of days), reluctance to take the cage over the bike, increased longing to ride. If you notice these symtoms it is usually to late. The rider has been infected and is fast becoming an addict. The only known cure is 400 miles of unpoliced road and a prepaid fuel card.
You have been warned, removing the flies may cause addiction
Reggie
Cute...and ohhhh so true !!!
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stevewfl
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posted September 05, 2008 04:27 AM
after we're done with this flies out topic, we need another oil thread
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FasterThanStink
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posted September 05, 2008 05:14 AM
Here you go.
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=24193&set_time=
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nczx14
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posted September 05, 2008 06:29 AM
What's Oil?
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Scalded Dawg
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posted September 05, 2008 08:54 PM
Thanks...But I did search for "flies removal". And came up with alot of useless crap. But never anything that spelled it out.
Maybe a sticky with links to the "horse beat dead" topics.
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dcjens
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posted September 09, 2008 06:38 PM
wow you guys reach sarcasm prematurely
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