sweetfa65
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posted July 21, 2008 02:03 AM
Pre-lube chain warming
I know that the best practice is to warm the chain with a short ride prior to lubing. If the ride part is to be skipped, does anyone know if the O'rings would be damaged by using a hair dryer or a heat gun etc to warm the chain?
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zxbob
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posted July 21, 2008 03:31 AM
 Edited By: zxbob on 21 Jul 2008 04:31
If you got the time to sit there ...... that hair dryer wont get things hot enough to do any harm.
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road rage
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posted July 21, 2008 10:03 AM
Don't wory about the short ride, if you can't do it before lubricating the chain. As an alternate (which I almost always do it this way) is lubricate the chain before you put the bike away for the night, day etc. Having the lub sit overnight or until your next ride accomplishes the same thing.
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ZXLNT
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posted July 21, 2008 10:57 AM
I would say the best practice is to lube the chain AFTER you get back from riding. The chain will be warm and the lube will have a chance to stay on instead of fling off..
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stevewfl
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posted July 21, 2008 01:27 PM
He was asking in post one "If the ride part is to be skipped, does anyone know if the O'rings would be damaged by using a hair dryer or a heat gun etc to warm the chain" is how we got on this most informative thread
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road rage
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posted July 21, 2008 04:48 PM
Edited By: road rage on 21 Jul 2008 17:50
If someone has the time to sit there with a hair dryer, attempting to heat the chain enough so that the lubrication can get into all the small areas of the chain....well, then we need to talk cause they'll be able to help me manage my time better seeing how they got plenty of it.
I'm sorry but this is alomst kinda silly if you think about it. Surely while riding the chain heats up even more so than what a stinking hair dryer could do. If that were the case, just riding the thing would kill the O-Rings. If you have the time, have at it; I'll be out riding.
Otherwise, lub the chain just before you put the bike way like myself and others have suggested.
Phil
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sweetfa65
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posted July 21, 2008 10:30 PM
Edited By: sweetfa65 on 21 Jul 2008 23:34
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If someone has the time to sit there with a hair dryer, attempting to heat the chain enough so that the lubrication can get into all the small areas of the chain....well, then we need to talk cause they'll be able to help me manage my time better seeing how they got plenty of it.
I'm sorry but this is alomst kinda silly if you think about it. Surely while riding the chain heats up even more so than what a stinking hair dryer could do. If that were the case, just riding the thing would kill the O-Rings. If you have the time, have at it; I'll be out riding.
Otherwise, lub the chain just before you put the bike way like myself and others have suggested.
Phil
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There's always at least one isn't there???
Alright..... for those with about as much life experience as a warm fart, and were obviously blessed with knowing all the answers from birth, let's assume for one minute that last ride you came home when it was pi$$ing down with rain. Chain ain't so warm now is it??? Nor is a good idea to wax a chain when it's wet. Then let's assume that most day's lately (winter in Aus) it's pi$$ing down raining more often that you get chances to ride. Suddenly, cleaning and lubing the chain while the weather's crap seems like a worthwhile idea.
Now we've got that out the way. Back to the question.
Again! "I know that the best practice is to warm the chain with a short ride prior to lubing". Admittedly a "stinking hair dryer" doesn't get that hot, but the rest of my question was asking if a heat gun (temps up to 600*C) would damage the O'rings??? Some O'rings are heat tolerant, others are not. Rather than wrecking a perfectly good chain, seems like a fair question.
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butterthegreat
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posted July 22, 2008 06:53 AM
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If someone has the time to sit there with a hair dryer, attempting to heat the chain enough so that the lubrication can get into all the small areas of the chain....well, then we need to talk cause they'll be able to help me manage my time better seeing how they got plenty of it.
I'm sorry but this is alomst kinda silly if you think about it. Surely while riding the chain heats up even more so than what a stinking hair dryer could do. If that were the case, just riding the thing would kill the O-Rings. If you have the time, have at it; I'll be out riding.
Otherwise, lub the chain just before you put the bike way like myself and others have suggested.
Phil
FOR PHARK'S SAKE!!!!!
There's always at least one isn't there???
Alright..... for those with about as much life experience as a warm fart, and were obviously blessed with knowing all the answers from birth, let's assume for one minute that last ride you came home when it was pi$$ing down with rain. Chain ain't so warm now is it??? Nor is a good idea to wax a chain when it's wet. Then let's assume that most day's lately (winter in Aus) it's pi$$ing down raining more often that you get chances to ride. Suddenly, cleaning and lubing the chain while the weather's crap seems like a worthwhile idea.
Now we've got that out the way. Back to the question.
Again! "I know that the best practice is to warm the chain with a short ride prior to lubing". Admittedly a "stinking hair dryer" doesn't get that hot, but the rest of my question was asking if a heat gun (temps up to 600*C) would damage the O'rings??? Some O'rings are heat tolerant, others are not. Rather than wrecking a perfectly good chain, seems like a fair question.
It still is.....I just clean the chain right after I ride....doesn't matter if it's raining...the chain still retains heat from a ride.
Warming up the chain by riding promotes even heating. It also loosens up the tolerances on the chain so that the lube can penetrate and do it's job. There's the right way, wrong way, and the lazy way. Your choice bends towards the lazy way.
If it's really that big of a deal, just get a bike lift with a rear wheel roller and just ride it in the garage for 5 minutes like it's on a dyno. Problem solved.
If you feel you can spend the time making sure everything is evenly heated and are unsure if it's safe, go ahead and test it and let us know your findings.
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posted July 22, 2008 07:11 AM
Or you pansies can just not worry about all that shit and use WD40 every once in a while to keep it clean?! Come on, this aint the '80s using shitty ass non O ring or first gen O ring chains. Very very few of you will actually wear the chain out before you change it anyways! They are "self contained" and only need to have the gunk cleaned out to keep them as friction free as possible.
How about you guys just buy a high tensile strength non O ring chain so all that wasted effort could be worthwhile? It'll give you some extra HP for all that effort! There, I said my piece... Flame On. 
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stevewfl
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posted July 22, 2008 07:29 AM
harsh! 
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