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posted January 14, 2010 01:34 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 14 Jan 2010 09:36
quote: They say that adams pan only adds about a 3/4 of a quart of oil capacity, but it sure looks like a lot more then that to me! I am undecided on whether to get the adams or osr (Clems)....... Shane, weren't you saying you liked the adams better because you do lsr? I wonder if the modified adams has baffling, otherwise it would seem as if oil could more easily slosh out of the way of the pickup....
Well, I was hesitant on the OSR, because they couldn't assure me that I wouldn'y run it dry holding the bike wide open for 2 miles.
However, I have yet to hear of anyone having a problem with one and I suspect they work great and reliably.
I know very little about the Adams modified stock pan. Did you call them? 3/4 of a quart is actually a lot, imo.
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posted January 14, 2010 01:59 AM
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quote: They say that adams pan only adds about a 3/4 of a quart of oil capacity, but it sure looks like a lot more then that to me! I am undecided on whether to get the adams or osr (Clems)....... Shane, weren't you saying you liked the adams better because you do lsr? I wonder if the modified adams has baffling, otherwise it would seem as if oil could more easily slosh out of the way of the pickup....
Well, I was hesitant on the OSR, because they couldn't assure me that I wouldn'y run it dry holding the bike wide open for 2 miles.
However, I have yet to hear of anyone having a problem with one and I suspect they work great and reliably.
I know very little about the Adams modified stock pan. Did you call them? 3/4 of a quart is actually a lot, imo.
don't quote me, but I did call them a while ago and that seems to be the number I remember them telling me..... I only bring this up again be cause I look that these pictures back to back and think..... it sure looks like a lot more then 3/4 of a quart to me!!!!!
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posted January 14, 2010 02:00 AM
Edited By: gilberjj on 14 Jan 2010 10:01
piss..... double post
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posted January 14, 2010 04:08 AM
adams has the stock baffling. this is the pan to get. I think the extra oil has contributed to keeping my engine alive. As far as clearance. Its flush with lower fairings. Its set-up for the 3 inch ama ground clearance rule. Clems pan is cool for a street pipe. But i wouldnt waste money on it if ya have a sidewinder.
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posted January 14, 2010 05:44 AM
On the running the pan dry theory. Why not improve drain back to the pan?
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posted January 14, 2010 06:04 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 14 Jan 2010 15:26
quote: On the running the pan dry theory. Why not improve drain back to the pan?
Scott, it's really a non-issue, I believe. The OSR pan is just a stock pan that is cut about 1/2" for ground clearance. I'm just conservative, and I didn't find a need for a lower pan last season.
Here is the OSR pan:

The above photo is of the stock pan (left) vs. The OSR (right). You can see that the OSR pan is cut flush to the oil filter, just like the Adams. It looks like the same ground clearance as the Adams, but with less capacity.
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posted January 14, 2010 07:04 AM
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It looks like the same clearance as the Adams, but with less capacity.
Looks like considerably less to me......
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posted January 14, 2010 07:06 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 14 Jan 2010 15:07
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It looks like the same clearance as the Adams, but with less capacity.
Looks like considerably less to me......
How is that?? The Adams and the OSR are both flat at the bottom of the oil filter....that would make for the same ground clearance.
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posted January 14, 2010 08:30 AM
He was probably refering to capacity. Looks like the osr pan could use a side piece added like I did to my pan. Just to remove any doubts
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posted January 14, 2010 08:33 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 14 Jan 2010 16:40
The OSR pan supposedly loses 4 ounces compared to stock (which you can offset with a larger filter). The Adams apparently gains 3/4 of a quart. So, there is the difference.
The OSR is designed to run with a normal exhaust, not a sidewinder.
I guess I am just having a hard time justifying a 1/2" shorter than oem pan (minus the guard) for a sidewinder. Where is the big gain? I'm sure it will work for some setups, but it is not what I have in mind for mine.
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posted January 14, 2010 10:13 AM
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quote: Shane if you get a new Mac arm i'd like dibs in your old arm ..
Sure Lee, no problem. I'll let you know.
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posted January 14, 2010 10:35 AM
My oil pan won't work with a stock pipe but works with a muzzy and hindle street system probly more. Holds approx 500 to 750 ml more than stock. I bet you could do the same thing to the osr pan
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posted January 14, 2010 03:50 PM
theres lots of room after you get the stock pipe off. it has really long primary tubes compared to some aftermarket stuff. im guessing the 14 is similar
(i usually keep it wrapped so it doesnt heat up the oil pan)

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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 16, 2010 06:22 AM
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quote: They say that adams pan only adds about a 3/4 of a quart of oil capacity, but it sure looks like a lot more then that to me! I am undecided on whether to get the adams or osr (Clems)....... Shane, weren't you saying you liked the adams better because you do lsr? I wonder if the modified adams has baffling, otherwise it would seem as if oil could more easily slosh out of the way of the pickup....
Well, I was hesitant on the OSR, because they couldn't assure me that I wouldn'y run it dry holding the bike wide open for 2 miles.
However, I have yet to hear of anyone having a problem with one and I suspect they work great and reliably.
I know very little about the Adams modified stock pan. Did you call them? 3/4 of a quart is actually a lot, imo.
don't quote me, but I did call them a while ago and that seems to be the number I remember them telling me..... I only bring this up again be cause I look that these pictures back to back and think..... it sure looks like a lot more then 3/4 of a quart to me!!!!!
clems pan
http://www.osrbikes.com/Race_Parts/Race_Parts.html
adams pan

What brand of oil filter is this???
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posted January 16, 2010 06:38 AM
It looks like a K&N, with the hex-head on top.
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posted January 16, 2010 09:02 AM
I want to hear it with one of these
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted January 16, 2010 09:35 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 16 Jan 2010 17:37
quote: I want to hear it with one of these

Hot damn!
I want that! $700...OUCH.
I think I may just have to "settle" for what I have.
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posted January 16, 2010 09:47 AM
ooh i like that. too bad im broke.
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posted January 16, 2010 09:48 AM
quote: I think I may just have to "settle" for what I have.
hahahaha
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posted January 22, 2010 03:58 AM
quote: I want to hear it with one of these

@KZScott
where did you find that one ???
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posted January 22, 2010 04:07 AM
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Installed:

Shane
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good idea !! and there is NO problem with the fuel and the polyc. plates ???
thx
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posted January 22, 2010 04:11 AM
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Here is what they get replaced with:

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which thickness ---
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posted January 22, 2010 04:11 AM
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good idea !! and there is NO problem with the fuel and the polyc. plates ???
thx
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Woppi, I haven't run them on the bike yet! I was waiting until I installed the nitrous, which will be this season.
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posted January 22, 2010 04:28 AM
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good idea !! and there is NO problem with the fuel and the polyc. plates ???
thx
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Woppi, I haven't run them on the bike yet! I was waiting until I installed the nitrous, which will be this season.
Okidoki ! thx for info !! verry gooood idea !!
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posted January 22, 2010 06:20 AM
i've run my clear plates and didn't notice a difference. It's a nice feature to check on poly NOS lines for a spraybar.
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