posted September 04, 2009 04:54 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 5 Sep 2009 00:54
I went to the track today. The air was good in the morning and I was hoping to sneak into the 8's. No luck, here is my best pass (#9200):
I made a lot of passes today, experimenting with different techniques. Nothing really worked, outside of what I have been doing. I just need some more practice.
quote:I went to the track today. The air was good in the morning and I was hoping to sneak into the 8's. No luck, here is my best pass (#9200):
I made a lot of passes today, experimenting with different techniques. Nothing really worked, outside of what I have been doing. I just need some more practice.
Shane
Was that with the new gear ? You Hit a 1.41 60 footer and it's a 8.94.. You are so close Shane it will happen at anytime ..
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posted September 04, 2009 05:04 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 5 Sep 2009 01:31
quote:Was that with the new gear ? You Hit a 1.41 60 footer and it's a 8.94.. You are so close Shane it will happen at anytime ..
Yes, with the new gear. It felt good, but made coming off the clutch a little harder for me. Some wheelie issues. I need more seat time to make the most of the new gear. My best 60 ft.of the day was 1.45, but that pass was ruined by a wheelie. But the wheelies aren't happening until I get off the clutch. I think I am waiting too late to start getting off the clutch, and trying to rush it at the end.
Also, when I try to pin the throttle sooner, I have a tendancy to come off of the clutch real fast...which leads to a wheelie. Practice, practice, practice...
posted September 05, 2009 08:02 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 5 Sep 2009 16:16
After reviewing some video, it is pretty apparent that I didn't ride the bike well yesterday. Inconsistency, poor body positioning... you name it. I really got so focused on trying to get in to the 8's that I didn't follow my gameplan. I did learn/practice a few small things..but I should have progressed more. Oh well, live and learn...
Sample video. Decent ET, but poor body positioning. Sitting up high like this really makes the bike more wheelie prone:
Timeslip (Bike #9200):
The other bike in the video was a 14 ridden by a female racer. After this pass the bike started tapping pretty bad. She said she only had 4 passes on it, with fresh motor work. Apparently the noises came after banging on the limiter hard a few times?
Here is very fast guy Keith Thompson on the same bike, before the issues. Apparently his first pass on a 14?? You can see he gets pointed a little sideways on this one:
The above video showed me two things:
1) No matter how good the rider, you can't expect every pass to be perfect.
2) 9.0's aren't really that slow looking when you watch someone else do them.
I burned 4+ gallons of MR9 yesterday. I need to find a cheaper fuel, or go back to pump soon. I won't likely be to the track for another month, so I have some time to figure that out.
posted September 05, 2009 09:04 AM
Nice job. I sometimes feel that im doing something wrong by not going faster every pass. It seems like some times you can do no wrong, then other nights you cant do right. It always helps me by taking some time off. Usually going to the track and watching others , Im like damn im not so bad lol. The best thing i feel is not to lose focus of your goal u set. Im very impressed with shanes progress. Keep it up. Your almost there.
posted September 08, 2009 10:14 AM
hey shane do you have some settings for some adjustable links at 64 wheel base my tiger tale still rubs, do you have the measurments. thanks
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posted September 08, 2009 11:23 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Sep 2009 19:25
quote:hey shane do you have some settings for some adjustable links at 64 wheel base my tiger tale still rubs, do you have the measurments. thanks
You could try 7.5" center-to-center to start. That is equal to the middle hole on 3 hole links. You should also firm your rear shock up, and set your rebound and compression damping to max. As you make the links longer, it will lower the bike more.
I think at 65" you will need to go a little more than 7.5" to set the bike where it needs to be. Probably 7.75" or even 8". Definitely firm up the shock. You have to firm up the shock because the added length of the swingarm creates a lot more leverage on the shock.
My links are set at almost 8", and my shock is 1" shorter than stock. I don't bottom, but I have a drag shock and it is set up pretty firm. Also, I don't do much street riding, so I am lower than you will likely want to go.
quote:hey shane do you have some settings for some adjustable links at 64 wheel base my tiger tale still rubs, do you have the measurments. thanks
You could try 7.5" center-to-center to start. That is equal to the middle hole on 3 hole links. You should also firm your rear shock up, and set your rebound and compression damping to max. As you make the links longer, it will lower the bike more.
I think at 65" you will need to go a little more than 7.5" to set the bike where it needs to be. Probably 7.75" or even 8". Definitely firm up the shock. You have to firm up the shock because the added length of the swingarm creates a lot more leverage on the shock.
My links are set at almost 8", and my shock is 1" shorter than stock. I don't bottom, but I have a drag shock and it is set up pretty firm. Also, I don't do much street riding, so I am lower than you will likely want to go.
Shane
thanks shane
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08 zx 14 lowered, straped in the
front, strecth 65, air shifter, pigs
windshiel, carbon fiber frame
sliders, full 2brother exhaust.
posted September 09, 2009 07:04 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Sep 2009 15:15
People always seem to focus on the 60 ft. Well, I tend to look harder at the 330'. Here are two of my runs. Look at the much improved 60 ft, but equal ET's:
This is a good example of where the 60 foot doesn't tell the whole story. I am pretty certain that the cause is that I was a little slower getting the throttle pinned on the run with the quicker 60 ft. Anyway, just thought I would give everyone something to think about when they start getting focused on those 60 ft #'s....
I did change the setup by using the Muzzy mount, a shorter cylinder, and a ram mounted solenoid. I also have another change in store for it, so my setup isn't exactly an off-the-rack arrangement.
All of the details are in the thread, check the table of contents. I went through several different minor changes to arrive where I am now.
posted September 12, 2009 07:53 AM
The last time I went to the track, my gearing was set at 17/46. This is a little more than 16/43. I really wanted to run 16/43, but I wasn't sure if I had room on the arm to do so. Today I decided to find out. First, I removed the countershaft cover:
I wanted to inspect the clutch slave. At the track last time out I experienced a strange anomaly every few passes. Three times consecutive, on the 3rd pass in a row, the bike would seemingly slip or spin coming off the line. I wasn't sure, but I thought that I might have gotten some air in the clutch line when I replaced the clutch. I had accidentally grabbed the lever at one point, when the clutch was out of the bike. The lever felt fine, but you never know how air is going to act.
Well, just as I suspected, it appears to have breached the hydraulic system. You can see where fluid has apparently leaked out of the slave assembly and then dried:
I will be fiting up the sprockets shortly, and I'll see what I need to do to fit the gearing I want, and fully utilize the avaiable wheelbase of my swingarm.
posted September 12, 2009 08:04 AM
Well, It's close but the gearing does fit:
It only leaves me with about 1/8" of adjustment, though. It will probably suffice, but I may have the ends of the axle adjusters milled 1/8" to allow for a little extra adjustment. This latest change extends the wheel out about .5", putting me very near 65" of wheelbase.
posted September 12, 2009 01:55 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 12 Sep 2009 22:10
Today I installed some 3 hole lowering links. Why, you ask? Weight and simplicity.
Threaded link weight:
3 Hole Link Weight:
Including all bolts and spacers, I saved about 1 lb. It also lowered the rear of the bike about 1/2":
The bike is pretty much as low as I can take it now. With me on it, strapped down, the ground clearance is about 1.75". I have 3.5" of clearance above the rear tire. I wish the Brock's pipe had a little more ground clearance, and I will probably have to get a lowered pan as well. I want to go lower up front, but I'm already on the edge right now.
I'm not 100% sold on the way the bike sits right now, and I don't want to be worrying about busting the oil pan every time I launch it...so I might consider putting the old links back on until I take care of the exhaust on oil pan clearance issues. I'm going to take a day or two to think about it.
posted September 12, 2009 03:38 PM
shane i had the same problem with the 3 hole links with the lowest setting busted a oil pand and my tiger under tail was rubbing. change it to the adjustables worked good. they have more tuning to them . my clearance on the tail is around 4.5 and ground clearance is 2.00 worked out pretty good
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08 zx 14 lowered, straped in the
front, strecth 65, air shifter, pigs
windshiel, carbon fiber frame
sliders, full 2brother exhaust.
quote:shane i had the same problem with the 3 hole links with the lowest setting busted a oil pand and my tiger under tail was rubbing. change it to the adjustables worked good. they have more tuning to them . my clearance on the tail is around 4.5 and ground clearance is 2.00 worked out pretty good
The 3 hole links aren't really a problem...I knew they would drop the bike a little. When I extended the bike it also raised the bike up a little, so the net change in ride height was less than .5". My bike does not squat nearly as much as a bike with stock shock, so I'm not too worried about the undertail right now.
The threaded links are nice, but very, very heavy. I have been working on the setup all year, and I'll continue to try some little things until I get it just right. I'm pretty sure I will end up even lower than this for next season.
posted September 12, 2009 04:48 PM
SHANE IS THIER A DIFFERECE BETWEEN UR SHOCK AND THE OHLINS ONE I KNOW PRICE WISE THEY ARE BUT ARE THEY THE SAME THING
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front, strecth 65, air shifter, pigs
windshiel, carbon fiber frame
sliders, full 2brother exhaust.
posted September 12, 2009 04:49 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Sep 2009 00:51
quote:SHANE IS THIER A DIFFERECE BETWEEN UR SHOCK AND THE OHLINS ONE I KNOW PRICE WISE THEY ARE BUT ARE THEY THE SAME THING
Well, I know they are not the same part. All I can tell you is that the Penske is a very well respected part....and it is cheaper. I'm sure some people prefer the Ohlins, and they have an excellent rep as well.
posted September 12, 2009 04:56 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Sep 2009 00:57
Back when I bought my Brock's exhaust, I was concerned about ground clearance not being equal to my Muzzy. Here are two pics showing the additional ground clearance of the M14:
Brock's:
Muzzy M14:
The Brock's pipe is much higher quality, much lighter, and runs great, but I would like to have that extra clearance of the M14 right about now. The new CT pipe from Brock's looks like it might have even more clearance in some areas than the Muzzy....but it's not cheap.
I'll probably be looking to make a change of some sort in the off season, for more clearance. Then I will be able to really get the bike down in the weeds.
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