dubious
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posted August 08, 2009 12:49 PM
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This is Bill's bike, with me sitting on it:
Awesome machine.
Shane
Damn. that guy has some good work!
That thing is a mechanical masterpiece!
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gsxrassassin
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posted August 10, 2009 12:15 PM
Dubious, Shane, Bill - Thanks for the info. I really appreicate it. One thing I noticed is that none of you mentioned the 13.5:1 pistons so I won't even consider them. It sounds like a good port job (for my wallet) will be the best bet. I'm not really looking for the amount of power that a stroker would give me and I understand that boring the 14 can be a major pain (because of the case issue).
I think I'll look into a CNC from Carpenter. I've heard good things about him. I know that KWS also does a port for the ZX-14 too. If you guys know of anyone personally who does good work please let me know. Thanks.
GSXR
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posted August 10, 2009 12:21 PM
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Dubious, Shane, Bill - Thanks for the info. I really appreicate it. One thing I noticed is that none of you mentioned the 13.5:1 pistons so I won't even consider them. It sounds like a good port job (for my wallet) will be the best bet. I'm not really looking for the amount of power that a stroker would give me and I understand that boring the 14 can be a major pain (because of the case issue).
I think I'll look into a CNC from Carpenter. I've heard good things about him. I know that KWS also does a port for the ZX-14 too. If you guys know of anyone personally who does good work please let me know. Thanks.
GSXR
Call Competition CNC and talk to Jim. As far as I know, they do the ZX-14 Super Sport heads for Quantum.
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KSPZ3
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posted August 10, 2009 02:20 PM
Shane - I jusr read about racheal's incident last night on Land racing - I was surprized and concerned. I am glad to hear that she is doing well - considering she was sliding on the pavement at speed...... I am really glad that there are no broken bones and it sounds as though recovery is going well. take care and send my regards to Racheal.
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posted August 10, 2009 03:09 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 10 Aug 2009 23:17
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Shane - I jusr read about racheal's incident last night on Land racing - I was surprized and concerned. I am glad to hear that she is doing well - considering she was sliding on the pavement at speed...... I am really glad that there are no broken bones and it sounds as though recovery is going well. take care and send my regards to Racheal.
Kevin
Thanks for your concern, Kevin. She is doing well, and planning is underway to rebuild the bike. 
As Larry Forstall put it: "It puts into perspective that LSR is not golf."
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KSPZ3
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posted August 10, 2009 03:14 PM
And that my friend is why have retired from the high speed stuff.... now just cheering from the sidelines and playing on the drag strip for fun. I have min getting those shorter stacks, tuned and lowed with the Brock adjustable links - recently on sale on their site. Get well Racheal....
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posted August 10, 2009 03:42 PM
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I didn't realize Rachael fell when I read the last post. I should have read it all. We are glad she is ok. One tough cookie. If she is up for Amsoil, She is the winner of this month's give away ahead of schedule if she would like to test it for us.
James
Thank you very much for the opportunity to test your product James. It is appreciated.
I also want to personally thank everyone for your concern. I am doing well and will be back on the bike before you know it . 
Racheal
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dubious
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posted August 10, 2009 04:19 PM
Edited By: dubious on 11 Aug 2009 00:20
LOL
Did Shane wash his leathers?
Are you missing a potato?
Shane, put back the potato(e)!
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gsxrassassin
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posted August 12, 2009 12:18 PM
Shane,
Thanks for another great piece of advice. I wrote to Jim and got the following response:
"Richard,
The stage 1 head will work excellent for the street. You should shoot for 13.5 to 1 CR. keep the squish to about .032-.035" and mill the head to get it to 13.5 to 1.
Now that you have a decent CR you can make good use of a set of bigger cams. We can discuss the profile choices for your application when we get to that point.
With this combo and running mrx-01 fuel we have seen 198-204 hp.
Thanks
Jim Gilnack
Competition CNC.com
98 Falls Ave.
Oakville CT. 06779"
Sounds like he's got the whole thing figured out already. Now I'm just saving my cash for the winter. Thanks again Shane.
GSXR
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posted August 12, 2009 12:47 PM
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Shane,
Thanks for another great piece of advice. I wrote to Jim and got the following response:
"Richard,
The stage 1 head will work excellent for the street. You should shoot for 13.5 to 1 CR. keep the squish to about .032-.035" and mill the head to get it to 13.5 to 1.
Now that you have a decent CR you can make good use of a set of bigger cams. We can discuss the profile choices for your application when we get to that point.
With this combo and running mrx-01 fuel we have seen 198-204 hp.
Thanks
Jim Gilnack
Competition CNC.com
98 Falls Ave.
Oakville CT. 06779"
Sounds like he's got the whole thing figured out already. Now I'm just saving my cash for the winter. Thanks again Shane.
GSXR
I don't think that there is any question that these Supersport ZX-14's run strong. Jim can take care of you, for sure.
Shane
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posted August 12, 2009 03:42 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Aug 2009 00:24
Time for an oil change. I ran a little longer than normal on this change. This oil had on it:
23 Dragstrip Passes
6 Dyno Pulls
8 Top Speed Passes at Loring (about 12 miles at WOT).
Probably about 100 miles total running, and about a month in the bike.
Since the oil was run to full operating temperature in every case, and I wasn't slipping the clutch too hard, I felt comfortable pushing it a bit. I normally use Honda 10W40 Dino oil, and have been considering trying synthetic in the 14. I have used various synthetics in other bikes over the years.
T&J Synthetics was kind enough to provide some oil for testing. Racheal was the lucky winner of the free monthly giveaway, and I stole, errr borrowed, some oil as soon as it arrived:
Shipping was very prompt (I actually got it the next day). I also consider the prices to be reasonable when compared to what I have paid locally for brands such as the Repsol we have run in the Turbo. It is convenient having the oil arrive at your doorstep.
Here is a link with more info:
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=16&TID=49135&set_time=
I intend to test this oil at the dragstrip next week. Racheal will also be testing some in her 1000. In the meantime I am going to get in a few street rides and provide some subjective feedback on shift quality, mechanical noise, smoothness, etc..
I don't know if you guys do this, but I have a funny "ritual". After I pound on the bike at the track, I like to baby it some. I'll usually wash it up some, clean and lube the chain, do the routine stuff, and then take it for a nice easy cruise on some backroads or something. I guess it is also a chance for me to listen for anything odd, etc...but I feel like I mostly do it to give the bike some quality time.
Shane
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posted August 12, 2009 07:29 PM
Edited By: KSPZ3 on 13 Aug 2009 04:14
Shane - What are you running in the quarter mile - average summer day including all short times and MPH? What is the density altitude at your track on average summer day ? Also, on your 211.9x pass - were you spraying or all motor?
Thanx,
Kevin
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Shane661
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posted August 13, 2009 02:53 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Aug 2009 13:05
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Shane - What are you running in the quarter mile - average summer day including all short times and MPH? What is the density altitude at your track on average summer day ? Also, on your 211.9x pass - were you spraying or all motor?
Thanx,
Kevin
Kevin, I can't give you great averages from the strip. I have only been 3 times this year.
But I would say my average ET is 9.1x. My average 60 foots were 1.51-1.53 range, but I have since improved that to mid 1.4's (I cant' say it is an average yet, but I'm confident I can run that range repeatedly now). Unfortunately the air went away at the track last time out, so I didn't get my 8 second pass in. I have run some 9.04-05's on 1.51's, in good air.
330 ft's 3.8x-3.9x
1/8 5.8x-5.9x.
1/8 mph 124
1/4 mph 149
These numbers were done without the velocity stacks, and on diluted MR9. DA at my track is in the 2800 ft.+ range on a hot summer day. Here are a couple of passes from the last time out:
Bike #55:
Mph was fluctuating wildly that day, apparently the mixed fuel was a contributor.
Better air, ET's, but worse riding:
Bike #57:
Again, the drag passes above were all done on diluted MR9, without the velocity stacks.
All passes at Loring were done on motor. Setup as follows:
Brock's Shortmeg Header System
Area P Carbon Fiber Megaphone Muffler
Maxton 200 MPH Map
MR9 Fuel
No Air Filter
Factory Pro Short Velocity Stacks
Breakdown of 1.5 mile passes:
Saturday
178 MPH License Pass
197 MPH 7+ mph cross/headwind/footshift (bad pass)
Sunday
205.93 MPH (cool air, light/moderate tail breeze, held 11200 indicated)
209.93 MPH (wind picking up, held 11400 indicated)
211.74 MPH (15+ MPH Tailwind, change to 38T sprocket)
211.97 MPH (15+ MPH Tailwind)
208.xx MPH (Sporadic Tailwind)
208.xx MPH (Sporadic Tailwind)
Anyway, I hope this is what you were looking for. I have been really lax on getting good data this year. I don't even have my logger installed yet. Soon, I keep saying...soon. I guess I am still trying to have a little "fun" out there, and I know that once I get the DL-32 installed no track day will be a casual affair.
Shane
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posted August 13, 2009 06:23 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Aug 2009 14:24
While I was reinstalling the air filter today, I went ahead and replaced the access panel. I replaced it with the aluminum piece off of the later model bikes. Presumably there was an issue with sealing with the plastic part, and perhaps that has been addressed.
This is certainly not a cure-all for the ram air woes of the 14, it's just a little piece of the puzzle.
Shane
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posted August 13, 2009 06:37 AM
I switched that air filter cover last year after reading a thread by someone with a high mileage gen1 zx14 that had noticed that his plastic cover had warped so bad that it was only making contact and sealing at the two bolted down ends- obviously allowing unfiltered air into the airbox 
Cheap replacement (and insurance) with the aluminum cover- haven't even looked at mine
for a couple of months now.
Let us know about the Amsoil- I'll try it next as well!
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Zedexdragon
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posted August 13, 2009 06:47 AM
jesus Shane!!!
A congrats to you on your run!!!!! that is very cool and to Rachel as well on her 225.03!!!!
An even more congrats to Rachel for making it through the get off. I cannot image a 150-180 slide! Very glad she is ok for both your sakes!!!
Cheers
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Shane661
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posted August 13, 2009 06:52 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Aug 2009 14:52
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jesus Shane!!!
A congrats to you on your run!!!!! that is very cool and to Rachel as well on her 225.03!!!!
An even more congrats to Rachel for making it through the get off. I cannot image a 150-180 slide! Very glad she is ok for both your sakes!!!
Cheers
Kinley
Thanks! Her best was a 228, but we didn't record that one. Probably looked about the same. The camera kept dying on me every time I put it on the 14. I think I know why, so maybe some footage from Maxton in October?
She is doing pretty well. I think we may "ground the fleet" for at least September, though. The costs of Landspeed Racing have really taken a toll this year.
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posted August 13, 2009 06:56 AM
Shane I am so Glad Rachel is OK . You will hit the 8s soon. Keep up the good work.
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masszx14
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posted August 13, 2009 07:00 AM
Shane, I 'm curious to what you have for a trailer for the bikes and such.
Please, post a few pics!
I just bought a new stand up Kendon trailer but haven't used it yet- just towed it home last week.
My enclosed V-nose might be for sale soon if I like the open trailer enough.
I want to see what the difference in fuel economy would be too.
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Shane661
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posted August 13, 2009 07:09 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 13 Aug 2009 15:10
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Shane, I 'm curious to what you have for a trailer for the bikes and such.
Please, post a few pics!
I just bought a new stand up Kendon trailer but haven't used it yet- just towed it home last week.
My enclosed V-nose might be for sale soon if I like the open trailer enough.
I want to see what the difference in fuel economy would be too.
We have a 6 x 12 V-Nose with two Condor chocks installed. Just the basics, really. We only get about 10 mpg with either tow vehicle. Ouch. We just can't afford to upgrade vehicles or trailer right now.
Shane
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posted August 13, 2009 07:32 AM
I'm in the same boat with the mpg- both my SUV and car are terrible for a long haul
with something in tow.
I'm taking the Kendon down to FL in a couple of months,
hope it does better.
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posted August 13, 2009 07:48 AM
Shane see my LSR post in the drag bike zone ... Shane please email me , i have some questions for you ... Thanks Smokin ..
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dubious
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posted August 13, 2009 07:51 AM
I have a 6X14 low V nose with baxleys. I bolted a small old tool chest I had in the V.
It fits perfect.
I like my little trailer and would not trade for a bigger one.
It sits no higher than my truck, and the diesel doesn't notice it back there.
Big ones take up too much space, and people tend to ask for them for moving.
Open ones you have no shelter, your belongings are in plain view, and exposed to the elements, you can't lock your belongings up, and you can't store stuff in them when not in use.
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Shane661
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posted August 13, 2009 01:41 PM
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Shane see my LSR post in the drag bike zone ... Shane please email me , i have some questions for you ... Thanks Smokin ..
Email sent.
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posted August 13, 2009 02:01 PM
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Shane see my LSR post in the drag bike zone ... Shane please email me , i have some questions for you ... Thanks Smokin ..
Hey Smokin, check your email, Thanks
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