posted August 07, 2009 11:08 AM
Here is another picture of Racheal, from Sunday morning:
The following day she had a get off after a 211 mph pass. The bike and her hit the ground at what is estimated to be 150-180 mph. She is ok, with some rash, bruises, and bumps. The bike will need a little more work.
posted August 07, 2009 11:15 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Aug 2009 19:16
We did some video of her runs. But the on-bike audio was very faint. So, I had to add music instead:
The day after we got home from Maine, after disassembly and inspection:
The front wheel tucked under braking. Other than that, we are investigating what made the bad run different from all of the others. She had 21 prior passes over 200 mph on this bike.
posted August 07, 2009 11:24 AM
Wow!
Glad to hear she is OK.
Lucky for sure to fall at that speed with zero injuries, even with the proper gear.
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posted August 07, 2009 11:26 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Aug 2009 21:45
quote:Wow!
Glad to hear she is OK.
Lucky for sure to fall at that speed with zero injuries, even with the proper gear.
She didn't break anything, but she has some decent rash, bruising, and swelling on the inside of the arms. It burned through the stretch panel material.
posted August 07, 2009 11:42 AM
tough lady!
She is riding it already as shown in the 2nd vid.
I have always wondered about the stretch material, or anything that isn't leather for that matter.
I really don't have alot of faith in textiles.
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natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
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posted August 07, 2009 11:50 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 7 Aug 2009 19:51
quote:tough lady!
She is riding it already as shown in the 2nd vid.
I have always wondered about the stretch material, or anything that isn't leather for that matter.
I really don't have alot of faith in textiles.
I have to keep a close eye on the engine, since the kill tether pulled apart at the metal ring and was still in the bike. The bike is believed to have been running when the rescue team got to it. If so, that means that the tipover switch did not work either, unfortunately.
I did check the oil for shavings, and checked the plenum, turbo (the airfilter was still attached, but shredded) and plugs. Everything looks good so far, but I will have to load the motor to really test it. We are a ways off from being able to do that.
quote:Here is another picture of Racheal, from Sunday morning:
The following day she had a get off after a 211 mph pass. The bike and her hit the ground at what is estimated to be 150-180 mph. She is ok, with some rash, bruises, and bumps. The bike will need a little more work.
Shane
wow i could only imagene what went threw ur head when she fell. im happy to hear she is okay!
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posted August 07, 2009 07:01 PM
Shane how did you hook up the led light? I have a schnitz led shift light and am trying to install it.THANKS IN ADVANCE
I wanted to get your opinion (and anyone else who'd like to help) on some engine work I'm thinking about doing over the winter. I want to throw in some 13.5:1 pistons, go with a mid/high rpm cam hardening job (Web Cams) and get some head porting on the bike. I'm not looking for any extreme porting but a nice clean up to take advantage of the more aggressive cams. I'm really only looking for 190 to 195 horses from the bike. It's a rider, not a racer but when the throttles get yanked I want to be at the front of the pack.
Bike a 2006 ZX-14 with a K&N filter, flies pulled and weak little BOZ exhaust. When I do the work I'll go from a K&N to a BMC Race and from the BOZ to a Brock's Alienhead or Muzzy M10 system. What do you think? Am I going in the right direction for a decent high power street rider?
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posted August 07, 2009 08:50 PM
I didn't realize Rachael fell when I read the last post. I should have read it all. We are glad she is ok. One tough cookie. If she is up for Amsoil, She is the winner of this month's give away ahead of schedule if she would like to test it for us.
posted August 07, 2009 09:27 PM
Edited By: dubious on 8 Aug 2009 05:33
quote:Shane,
I wanted to get your opinion (and anyone else who'd like to help) on some engine work I'm thinking about doing over the winter. I want to throw in some 13.5:1 pistons, go with a mid/high rpm cam hardening job (Web Cams) and get some head porting on the bike. I'm not looking for any extreme porting but a nice clean up to take advantage of the more aggressive cams. I'm really only looking for 190 to 195 horses from the bike. It's a rider, not a racer but when the throttles get yanked I want to be at the front of the pack.
Bike a 2006 ZX-14 with a K&N filter, flies pulled and weak little BOZ exhaust. When I do the work I'll go from a K&N to a BMC Race and from the BOZ to a Brock's Alienhead or Muzzy M10 system. What do you think? Am I going in the right direction for a decent high power street rider?
You could acheive similar results just working the head.
Milling the head and porting it., better springs.
A good Cooper or Carpenter CNC head with radiused valve job, and good bowl work will acheive the same results, then go to bigger displacement and billet cams down the road.
The stock head is really hard to improve upon without spending ~$1200+ with exception of milling it.
This way your only into the head and its prepped. When you go into the bottom, you will be ready to go for the gusto- 1550cc!
I would do the head, and later the 1550, ......or the 1550, and later the head.
Depends on the current state of the engine and your wallet I guess.
At the least I would do a 4-5 mm stroker, and stock bore.
Some of the kits use stock rods and aftermarket pistons, so in reality additional $800 crank work and you have a stroker, vs just pistons.
I would definately do the exhaust asap.
Thats just my 2 pennies though
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destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
posted August 07, 2009 11:40 PM
About Racheal's off, this might not be due to the same cause but I think it's worth mentioning in the same thread: one of our Busa riders came off half way down the track when the front locked up. When they recovered the bike there was no obvious fault with the brakes or front end.
After investigation they found the caliper pistons were sticking. The heat this generated caused the brake to lock on after about half a mile of high speed running, by the time it was picked up things had cooled and the brake released again. Obviously the calipers needed an overhaul and the brake fluid needed changing too.
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quote:I didn't realize Rachael fell when I read the last post. I should have read it all. We are glad she is ok. One tough cookie. If she is up for Amsoil, She is the winner of this month's give away ahead of schedule if she would like to test it for us.
quote:About Racheal's off, this might not be due to the same cause but I think it's worth mentioning in the same thread: one of our Busa riders came off half way down the track when the front locked up. When they recovered the bike there was no obvious fault with the brakes or front end.
After investigation they found the caliper pistons were sticking. The heat this generated caused the brake to lock on after about half a mile of high speed running, by the time it was picked up things had cooled and the brake released again. Obviously the calipers needed an overhaul and the brake fluid needed changing too.
Thanks for the input, we are going to check all aspects of the machine. I am inspecting and overhauling the brake system as a precaution.
posted August 08, 2009 07:57 AM
Glad to see Rachel's ok.Looks like you are gonna have a turbo coming for the 14 to get the mph that she is posting.Thanks for the info on the led .With your setup i think the 8's are in the cards.
posted August 08, 2009 08:00 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Aug 2009 16:01
quote:Glad to see Rachel's ok.Looks like you are gonna have a turbo coming for the 14 to get the mph that she is posting.Thanks for the info on the led .With your setup i think the 8's are in the cards.
Thanks. Yeah, 8's should have been in the cards on this last Thursday, but it rained!
I'm pondering the turbo, big motor, nitrous...you name it.
posted August 08, 2009 08:06 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Aug 2009 16:07
quote:Shane,
I wanted to get your opinion (and anyone else who'd like to help) on some engine work I'm thinking about doing over the winter. I want to throw in some 13.5:1 pistons, go with a mid/high rpm cam hardening job (Web Cams) and get some head porting on the bike. I'm not looking for any extreme porting but a nice clean up to take advantage of the more aggressive cams. I'm really only looking for 190 to 195 horses from the bike. It's a rider, not a racer but when the throttles get yanked I want to be at the front of the pack.
Bike a 2006 ZX-14 with a K&N filter, flies pulled and weak little BOZ exhaust. When I do the work I'll go from a K&N to a BMC Race and from the BOZ to a Brock's Alienhead or Muzzy M10 system. What do you think? Am I going in the right direction for a decent high power street rider?
Well, Bill Eason would be the guy to talk to. You might consider a 4mm crank, he has had good success with them. Personally, for just a street bike, you might just try a supersport head, good tune, and shorter gearing. The right gearing can do more than $2k in mods. It's all in the setup. The parts are just one piece of the puzzle.
Good head work and cams will be very expensive. You might as well give it some displacement if that is the direction you plan to go. Just my .02.
posted August 08, 2009 08:31 AM
Shane,
How many guys are running 240mm or 250 rubber?
I read somewhere that Bill Warner? runs 250? rubber.
Do you know what tire/ rim it is exactly?
I need to het hooked up with him for more info.
Thanks
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natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
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posted August 08, 2009 08:35 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Aug 2009 16:37
quote:Shane,
How many guys are running 240mm or 250 rubber?
I read somewhere that Bill Warner? runs 250? rubber.
Do you know what tire/ rim it is exactly?
I need to het hooked up with him for more info.
Thanks
He is running a 240 tire on a Carrozzeria rim. Not appropriate for drag racing...heavy and not sticky enough tires (yet?). He is the only person using that tire. Scott Guthrie Racing's "Hammer" just went 265 mph on a standard tire.
Contact Bill Warner here, tell him Shane Burton referred you!
posted August 08, 2009 08:44 AM
Cool ,
Thanks Buddy,
BTW I was thinking wind drag could have activated the frt brake lever on Rachels bike
I know on the dirtbikes I have owned, if the free travel on the lever was adjusted too tight, and the brakes got hot during a moto, they would drag. That combo with high winds on the frt lever possibly?
Bearings good?
Definately sounds like a frt wheel rotation issue.
Did you have any crosswinds?
A couple times running 180+ I have had mine feel like it wanted to wash out.
We had strong infrequent crosswind gusts.
Anyway, best of luck, speedy recovery, and props to you both!
Those are fine numbers.
I envy you, I wish I could meet all those fine people.
Sounds like a great group, with alot of knowledge to share too.
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natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
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posted August 08, 2009 08:47 AM
Lyle, I am looking at track suface and crosswinds as possible contributors. We have some good data, and smarter people than I are looking into it.
I wanted to get your opinion (and anyone else who'd like to help) on some engine work I'm thinking about doing over the winter. I want to throw in some 13.5:1 pistons, go with a mid/high rpm cam hardening job (Web Cams) and get some head porting on the bike. I'm not looking for any extreme porting but a nice clean up to take advantage of the more aggressive cams. I'm really only looking for 190 to 195 horses from the bike. It's a rider, not a racer but when the throttles get yanked I want to be at the front of the pack.
Bike a 2006 ZX-14 with a K&N filter, flies pulled and weak little BOZ exhaust. When I do the work I'll go from a K&N to a BMC Race and from the BOZ to a Brock's Alienhead or Muzzy M10 system. What do you think? Am I going in the right direction for a decent high power street rider?
Well, Bill Eason would be the guy to talk to. You might consider a 4mm crank, he has had good success with them. Personally, for just a street bike, you might just try a supersport head, good tune, and shorter gearing. The right gearing can do more than $2k in mods. It's all in the setup. The parts are just one piece of the puzzle.
Good head work and cams will be very expensive. You might as well give it some displacement if that is the direction you plan to go. Just my .02.
Shane
This is good advise shane'' there's no benefit to cams [and there's only billet read $$$$$] for the 14 because the stk cores are to light to do anything with' The way to go is a super sport package with thin gasket ,valve job, blend ports and good springs. This is a very good street motor that will make real good torque across a wide range . With that said if you do a big motor then a 1530 is a beast, even with stk cams they are plain evil and run way better then the power numbers would suggest . If you want to run nos then build a 4milstroke/stkbore with mild head work and if you use stk cams go 105-107 '' we are using the oem rods up to 300 hp but would recommend you stay below that figure with nos unless you plan on improving the fuel system and clutches ...........................Bill
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