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posted March 20, 2009 12:45 PM
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Here's a thought. Since you already ground off the plug guard, use a shaved or low profile bolt and a VERY large washer. Instead of pushing through your pan upon impact, it will push on the washer, and if it is a large washer with a lot of surface area touching the pan, it will much more difficult to push through the pan.
I have found some good plugs, and I will have info and pics up this weekend (with any luck). 
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posted March 20, 2009 01:02 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 20 Mar 2009 21:04
Things are going slow on the project now. I am at a standstill on the suspension end of things. It looks like I am going to change direction a little bit and get some additional work done.
In the meantime, I have ordered a new rear shock. I've ordered a Penske 8983, which will be set up with racing in mind (Generic 8983 Photos Below):
It will be a few weeks before the shock arrives, and I still need to work out the full details of the setup between myself, the vendor, and Penske.
I am thinking about an Adams Straight Link as well. Like I said, some changes in the works.
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posted March 20, 2009 03:12 PM
Shane,
If you have the right spring rate and valving, you don't need the adams link.
I got my Ohlins set up special with the proper spring and valving for the street and a 6" arm, but will likely need the adams link for the track....at 8-10 " over, and much stiffer for the strip.
My set up is to compensate for the varying types of use it will see.
Since yours is strictly track, they will set it up for your weight, use and length of arm if you request it.
It might take a few tries revalving and respringing it to get it right.
If you got it from a vendor who regularly sets them up for drag racing, you might be ok 1st time out.
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posted March 20, 2009 04:12 PM
If I go with the straight link it would only be for ground clearance. I called Adams and they said that the main benefit of the straight link is for ground clearance.
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posted March 20, 2009 04:41 PM
Edited By: dubious on 21 Mar 2009 00:48
Sounds like a sales pitch to me
You will gain an inch maybe, but I never had the knuckle hit the ground, but did drag the header and the pan a few times.
Maybe for tech purposes, but in the real world the knuckle moves up and down with the arm, so when the suspension compresses, the knuckle rotates up as the shock compresses.
It just doesn't seem right from a suspension tech perspective.
I used to revalve and resping my own and the suspension for a few fewllow motocrossers,
Its really hard to valve a near linear linkage like the straight link, otherwise KTM would have the best rear supension in dirt bikes, which they certainly do not.
I would get a second and 3rd opinion from people who tune suspensions, or Brock Davison for that matter...he sells ohins drag spec shocks.
Not trying to argue, but contrary trying to help you
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posted March 20, 2009 04:45 PM
No, they said it is for classes that have a certain minimum clearance requirement. The knuckle on the stock link does stick down quite a bit. Schnitz tech support told me the same thing, then I called Adams.
To get maximum benefit, it looks like you would need a shorter shock (judging from your pics).
They weren't trying to pitch it to me at all...
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posted March 20, 2009 05:26 PM
Yes, we have clearance limitations in Canada too...
The ohlins is adjustable length as are some of the Penske shocks...
I am curios what percentage of the top competitors use this product vs the ones that are using aftermarket valved and sprung suspension alone.
You seem to have your mind made up though.
Have a nice day 
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posted March 21, 2009 12:19 PM
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Any ideas of why the forks are only 1" shorter with 1.5" lowering blocks?
Hey Shane,
The zx14 forks are more complicated design to work on than the GSXR forks, but here is some info on cutting forks that I thought you might find interesting, especially the comments and links I gave at the end of the thread...
Hope this helps you out with your forks.
http://psychobike.com/forums/tuning-performance/14249-cant-get-forks-apart.html
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posted March 21, 2009 12:23 PM
Good info, thanks!
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posted March 21, 2009 01:38 PM
The street pipe and stock oil pan will hit b4 the link does. The link comes into affect when you get a flat pan, and a sidewinder. Just so you know.
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posted March 21, 2009 01:49 PM
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The street pipe and stock oil pan will hit b4 the link does. The link comes into affect when you get a flat pan, and a sidewinder. Just so you know.
Thanks, I was wondering about that. Now I can probably scratch the link from my list...
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posted March 21, 2009 04:37 PM
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The street pipe and stock oil pan will hit b4 the link does. The link comes into affect when you get a flat pan, and a sidewinder. Just so you know.
or a flat pan and a TURBO....
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posted March 24, 2009 12:56 PM
My bike is out of storage, but since my garage is still a mess
I might end up working on the bike in the shed... for a few days that is
A couple of the pics I took today with the gsx-r axle and brake caliper
fitted on the stock zx14 swingarm. I ended up cutting the gsx-r caliper hanger
and it mates with the arm's torsion bar nub very well- I just need to figure out
a way to secure it from shifting backwards.
Shane, I know you're going through some tough decision making
and I hope this serves as a little bit of motivation for you.
The pretty girl is back! Now the wrenching begins!
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posted March 24, 2009 01:10 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 24 Mar 2009 21:12
Good job, Stan. The weather breaking is really putting the pressure on and I've already paid for track time. I sent you an email....we'll see what the mail brings later this week. 
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posted March 24, 2009 02:57 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 24 Mar 2009 22:58
Stan, did you ever pick up a small scale? I'm curious as to how much those Competition Werkes footpegs weigh....
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posted March 24, 2009 03:09 PM
Never got a scale... I get my weight refferences from this thread
They are actually Oberon pegs ( not sure if it's the same as CW),
made in Germany and I paid $100+ for them last summer.
Not sure if a set of pegs is worth that amount of money.
They are not much lighter than the $25 sets on ebay and such.
BTW I'll take the axle and emailed you back.
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posted March 27, 2009 12:42 PM
I decided to ditch the GSXR wheels. I know, you are saying, why??
Well, I just got disillusioned with the project. I could see the light at the end of the tunnel, but something told me to take another direction...so I did.
My new rims came today:
They're pretty nice.
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posted March 27, 2009 12:48 PM
Those wheels are sick...I want your job so I can buy some of those!
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posted March 27, 2009 12:50 PM
OK now the serious question...who do you trust to mount tires on those things?
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posted March 27, 2009 01:30 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 27 Mar 2009 21:35
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OK now the serious question...who do you trust to mount tires on those things?
I have a No-Mar tire changer. Unfortunately, the folks at BST don't.
The rims are well packaged:
However, the rear rim had some marks on it. A few tiny rub marks and this pretty decent scrape (the camera flash really makes it stand out):
I immediately contacted Brocks, and Brock emailed me back within 10 minutes. He explained that BST mounts a tire and does a leak down test on each rim...and that these marks are within the realm of normal. The front rim is near perfect.
At any rate, I don't have to worry about putting the first mark on them. Perhaps the BST rim lips are more susceptible to marks, I'm not sure. I'm glad that they do leak test them; but maybe BST could be a little more careful in the mount/dismount department.
They really are gorgeous, which makes any imperfection really jump out.
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posted March 27, 2009 01:59 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 27 Mar 2009 22:04
BST's are all about the weight. So, let's see what they weigh:
Front, with spacers:
6 lbs. 1 oz.
Rear, with spacers:
9 lbs. 4 oz.
Sprocket carrier:
1 lb. 13 oz.
Total rear, with sprocket carrier: 11 lbs. 1 oz.
Stock wheels:
Front 11.6 lbs.
Rear 19.5 lbs.
Weight savings over stock:
Front 5 lbs 9 oz.
Rear 8 lbs. 7 oz.
These numbers could be off by a few ounces, but you get the idea.
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posted March 27, 2009 02:25 PM
OMG$$$$$$$$$$$$
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posted March 27, 2009 02:29 PM
LOL
CRAZY... LOL
Here is the important question...
Congrats! do they weigh as much as they are worth in $10 bills?
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posted March 27, 2009 02:38 PM
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LOL
CRAZY... LOL
Here is the important question...
Congrats! do they weigh as much as they are worth in $10 bills?
I'll be honest, this was an insane purchase.
Fortunately I have a lot of spare parts to sell to make up the money.
This is definitely not a logical expenditure....
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posted March 27, 2009 03:10 PM
Shane, send the wheels to me until you start thinking logically young man!
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