pazx14rider
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posted March 06, 2009 07:15 PM
Shane i didnt forget about you with the oil pan...long story pissed off about it...local welding shop did a shit job on my pan i dont trust it so i ordered a new pan from clems supposed to be here tomorrow.
  
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posted March 06, 2009 07:30 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 7 Mar 2009 03:32
Shane ,
I think your on the right track.
I also measured mine from a work table.
Its been so damn long, but I know I checked everything 20 times.
get a centerline in the rim, work out from there bro.
forget the bead BS.
Because it tapers in, I had to keep marking the inner rim until I got it marked so the vernier read the same measuring from the inside of the lip to center from each side....
I can't remember what my measurment was...
Now there is only a 1/2 mm difference from mine and yours accounting for the rim bead thickness.
Dem BST's sure lookin better eh!  
as far as the kleen system, plug the airbox at the crankcase port, run the crankcase breather line into the stock kleen caps with a T, it will reduce crankase pressure, and free up 1-2 HPon N/A bikes... the exhaust will scavenge the crank pressure out of it.
throw the valve in the parts bin, and tape the connector back... its not needed.
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Shane661
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posted March 07, 2009 01:07 PM
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Shane i didnt forget about you with the oil pan...long story pissed off about it...local welding shop did a shit job on my pan i dont trust it so i ordered a new pan from clems supposed to be here tomorrow.
If you can take a few pics of the Clem's, that would be great. I am about to do something with mine, although I am leaning away from reducing the sump capacity.
Shane
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KZScott
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posted March 07, 2009 07:53 PM
can you add extra capacity to it like i did to mine?
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 03:50 AM
That may be a possibility; but I am pretty sure that just moving the drain plug will have the header smashing before the pan. I'll know for sure this week.
Shane
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2009 08:09 AM
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That may be a possibility; but I am pretty sure that just moving the drain plug will have the header smashing before the pan. I'll know for sure this week.
Shane
Shane, I have pics with the relocated plug and Brocks AH pipe side view so you can have a visual. I cant post pics here but can send them to your emai if you like.
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posted March 08, 2009 08:18 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2009 17:24
quote:
quote:
That may be a possibility; but I am pretty sure that just moving the drain plug will have the header smashing before the pan. I'll know for sure this week.
Shane
Shane, I have pics with the relocated plug and Brocks AH pipe side view so you can have a visual. I cant post pics here but can send them to your emai if you like.
That sounds good.
Thanks...
Shane
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2009 09:12 AM
sent them to you.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 09:48 AM
It actually appears that the pan is a little lower than the pipe, based on the pictures you sent me...
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2009 10:15 AM
with a straight edge across the bottom of the pan and exh tubes it is perfectly even.
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8.95 @153 small shot n2o
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 10:19 AM
Cool, that works for me. 
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4Racing
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posted March 08, 2009 11:42 AM
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with a straight edge across the bottom of the pan and exh tubes it is perfectly even.
Shane,
This was from an earlier post and I forgot to get back with you.
I also cut and filed the metal hanging off the oil pan and used a flush mount drain plug when I installed my new M14 Muzzy exhaust. I was able to lower the bike more and now the oil pan, shock lingage, and exhaust are level with 2" of ground clearance. Let me know if you want a plug. No drilling or tapping. I use loctite to make sure it does not back out.
The fitting is from McMaster Carr Supply phone # 630-834-9600.
The part # 916-45h 12 x 1.5 x16. I think they are $1. Cheap modification and very easy. I gave a couple of these to a guy named Farley Hall who races the AMA SS class on a ZX14 and neither one of us has had any issues.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 11:53 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2009 19:57
Is there more to that part #? It is not coming up...
Kind of frustrating, I have been looking all over for such a plug...
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2009 12:06 PM
Edited By: kawasakijockey on 8 Mar 2009 20:08
The stock plug is a DIN 910 type. There is a lower profile plug called a DIN 908. The Din 908 uses an allen key and can be a seal type whereas the one 4racing is talking about is pretty much a 12mm set screw that would be perfectly flush with the pan. the din 908 would probably leave an 1/8in profile. Search the number it will show you something.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 12:12 PM
Mcmaster is not listing any of these in a 12mm size...
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2009 12:17 PM
Try fullermetric.com
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 12:26 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2009 20:43
After some intense searching, I found this at McMaster:
99642A232
Metric Alloy Steel Cup Point Socket Set Screw M12 Size, 16mm Length, 1.5mm Special Pitch
In stock at $10.73 per Pack
This product is sold in Packs of 5
http://www.mcmaster.com/#99642a232/=x09b2
That looks to be the DIN 916 specification set screw. Definitely would need sealing on the threads of some sort.
Shane
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 12:43 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2009 20:44
Here are the DIN 908 spec pieces at Fuller Metric:
http://www.fullermetric.com/products/socket/din908_hexagon_socket_screw_plug.html
Only a 3mm height on the head of those. I will be ordering something this week, and we'll see how it works out.
Thanks!
Shane
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4Racing
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posted March 08, 2009 02:33 PM
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Here are the DIN 908 spec pieces at Fuller Metric:
http://www.fullermetric.com/products/socket/din908_hexagon_socket_screw_plug.html
Only a 3mm height on the head of those. I will be ordering something this week, and we'll see how it works out.
Thanks!
Shane
I can mail you one if you want to try it. I use red loctite to seal and hold it in place and have not had any problems. Farley Hall said he just used teflon tape. I have a little more than two inches of ground clearance. My forks are pushed up 1 1/2" in the triple tree, the preload adjustment is backed all the way out, and the front end is strapped all the way down. I have never hit the oil pan at the track. I do not ride on the street with it strapped down.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 02:38 PM
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I can mail you one if you want to try it. I use red loctite to seal and hold it in place and have not had any problems. Farley Hall said he just used teflon tape. I have a little more than two inches of ground clearance. My forks are pushed up 1 1/2" in the triple tree, the preload adjustment is backed all the way out, and the front end is strapped all the way down. I have never hit the oil pan at the track. I do not ride on the street with it strapped down.
I appreciate the offer; I am just going to order a pack of them tomorrow. I'm placing another order with McMaster anyway. Thanks very much for the info!
This may save me from having to pull the pan again...
Shane
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posted March 08, 2009 05:23 PM
Edited By: 4Racing on 9 Mar 2009 01:24
Let me know if you want to sell the quick access clutch cover or the extended race tail.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2009 05:32 PM
Give me your email, and I'll contact you later this week. I am at least selling the tail section...
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4Racing
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posted March 08, 2009 07:05 PM
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Shane661
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posted March 09, 2009 07:58 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 9 Mar 2009 16:24
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Shane ,
I think your on the right track.
I also measured mine from a work table.
Its been so damn long, but I know I checked everything 20 times.
get a centerline in the rim, work out from there bro.
forget the bead BS.
Because it tapers in, I had to keep marking the inner rim until I got it marked so the vernier read the same measuring from the inside of the lip to center from each side....
I can't remember what my measurment was....
I don't see a problem with measuring from the outside of the bead lip. The tire will sit in center of the two beads, and that is what I am trying to center.
I don't trust the vernier. It is too easy to skew the readings. I am trying to minimize the # of measuring points required, thereby minimizing the chances of deviation.
Shane
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posted March 09, 2009 01:31 PM
someone gave me one of those for my zx12 a few years back.
I didn't put any sealant on it and I never had a problem.
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