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posted February 19, 2009 03:16 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Feb 2009 23:50
My new Brock's Performance exhaust arrived today:
Everything was packaged very well. The exhaust system consists of several pipe sections, retention springs, and the muffler:
Also included with the exhaust was a spring puller to help with assembly, which is a nice touch. If you've ever tried installing springs without a tool, you know how tough it can be without one.
A few minutes and I had everything test-fitted:
As you can see, I went with the Shortmeg. It has a removable baffle, unlike the Alien Head:
I know this pipe will make excellent power. The big question for me was weight. I already knew what to expect after talking with Brock. When I told him how concerned with weight I was, he went so far as to pull a system and double check it for me. My measurements came out exactly the same as his. Just under 9 lbs, without the retention springs installed.
Here is how the weight breaks down, by my scale:
Assembled Header 5 lb. 15 oz.
Midpipe 5 oz.
Muffler with baffle 2 lb. 11 oz.
Springs 5 oz.
So, about 9 lbs. 4 oz complete with baffle. I plan to remove the baffle later, for even more weight savings (racing only). It will probably be easier to do that once the pipe is on the bike. In addition to the weight lost by going with the Brock's system, I am able to do away with the exhaust hanger/peg bracket. In my case, I have a TWW hanger which is about .5 lb. The stock hanger with peg is over one pound.
The Brock exhaust is approximately 5 lbs. lighter than the Muzzy system I was using. Add another .5 loss, due to the removal of the hanger.
I want to thank everyone who pointed me in the right direction, and I want to thank Brock personally for providing excellent customer service.
But, in short.....this pipe looks fantastic and I can't wait to hear it run, and twist the grip! 
Shane
  
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posted February 19, 2009 03:36 PM
Nice!
You'll love that pipe!
I spanked many meatheads, demoralized most, with the smeg on mine!
Nuthin quite like the shreik of an smeg on a big block bike at 11,000 rpm! 
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posted February 19, 2009 03:37 PM
very nice! its going to be loud without the baffle! you could barely tell my bike was running besides dads (street Muzzy vs Muzzy SW no baffle)
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posted February 19, 2009 04:56 PM
Nice pipe! 
Thanks alot for taking your time and measuring all the oem parts too!
I've personally wondered about the weight of parts too many times.
BTW What did Brock say about the weight on the Shortmeg muffler compared
to the Alien head muffler? They can't be exactly the same I guess. Wonder which
one is lighter.
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posted February 19, 2009 05:04 PM
quote:
BTW What did Brock say about the weight on the Shortmeg muffler compared
to the Alien head muffler? They can't be exactly the same I guess. Wonder which
one is lighter.
I think it is very, very close...but I couldn't tell you for sure.
I was more interested in the Shortmeg and I didn't see a compelling reason to go with the Alien Head, knowing that I wanted a removable baffle.
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posted February 20, 2009 03:47 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 20 Feb 2009 23:47
Kickstand weights; Stock vs. Spencer Cycle billet:
Stock 1 lb. 2.2 oz.
Billet 10.6 oz.
The stock piece is amazingly heavy...
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posted February 20, 2009 04:04 PM
Shane you will like the short meg thats what i have has a very good sound just watch your boot on it! it likes to melt boots!
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posted February 20, 2009 04:05 PM
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Shane you will like the short meg thats what i have has a very good sound just watch your boot on it! it likes to melt boots!
That's what I'm hearing. I'm thinking about a heat shield....
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posted February 20, 2009 04:27 PM
My wife went and bought a pair of boots at the harley dealer and they had a stick almost looked like deodorant to remove burnt boot off your chrome exhaust i got some it was 5 bucks ill let you know how it works. i was using easy off oven cleaner and thats still a bitch to get it off. but ill keep you posted.
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posted February 20, 2009 04:39 PM
Hey, could you post a picture of where it is melted? The maybe I can fashion up a shield ahead of time...
Thanks!
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posted February 20, 2009 04:48 PM
yea ill be workin on it tomorrow ill snap some pics and post tomorrow evening.
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posted February 20, 2009 11:59 PM
Edited By: dubious on 21 Feb 2009 08:01
All pipes I have seen run real close to the footpeg.
Mine was the standard smeg, but same idea as you can see here.
My heel would burn if I wasn't careful, and I couldn't adjust my rearsets back:
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posted February 21, 2009 12:02 AM
Thanks for the posting on weight of kickstand... I was wondering about that.
I sold all my old parts before I moved.... just had too much stuff as it was.
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posted February 21, 2009 01:27 PM
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haha.... you forgot to add in your 3oz flies 
every oz counts right
How I wish they were 3 oz....
Sadly, even with the screws I don't think they will equal one paltry ounce!
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posted February 21, 2009 01:31 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 21 Feb 2009 22:10
quote:
All pipes I have seen run real close to the footpeg.
Mine was the standard smeg, but same idea as you can see here.
My heel would burn if I wasn't careful, and I couldn't adjust my rearsets back:
I wish I knew the precise weight of the rearsets. Mine are now around .5 lb lighter than stock due to the peg/heel guard swap. If you start swilling some beer this weekend, take one off and weigh it for me!
Are the heel plates on the Vortex removable (looks like not)?
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posted February 21, 2009 02:32 PM
Sorry to interfere with this post, But had a question for shane. I saw you were running the clutch quick access cover. What brand is it? Will it clear a brocks sidewinder? I have a cycle logic lock-up in my bike right now, it has the spacer plus stock cover. Just wondering how cloce ot comes to the fairing etc. A close-up might awnser the questions if its not to much trouble.
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posted February 21, 2009 02:39 PM
I went thru the pages and found the pic, thanks. that was very helpful. these forums really help buying the right part the 1st time out.
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posted February 21, 2009 02:48 PM
Shane, lightly off topic here:
Since you have removed the rear passenger pegs, braces etc and are saying that the bike is 'safe' for daytime use.
Over here in Aus, if you have a bike that has been classed as passenger allowed (IE: Rear pegs etc and a Seat for two) - and you remove the passenger pegs etc - BUT keep the dual seat, It's a no go over here, afaik.
Plus the RTA (DMV), has to be notified (insurance etc), that the vehicle is modified to sit only one (a plus side to that is that our road tax (rego), is a LOT cheaper).
Our authoritys have to inspect the bike (no rear pegs [That means no un-bolting - but welded sealed - and a seat for one], before they issue a compliance. If not and a crash happens, then no insurance etc.
Great work on the write up. Can't wait to see the finished thing. Hopefully, i have won the lotto by then and i'll buy it. But i'll need the passenger set up
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posted February 21, 2009 03:32 PM
My seat is a solo seat, so I think that part would pass? But no headlights is probably a deal breaker.
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posted February 21, 2009 03:43 PM
I need to get the forks lowered internally, so off they come!
It takes only 3 bolts per side to remove each leg. I found that removing the upper controls gave me a little more room. In my case I also had to remove my steering damper since it clamps to the fork.
Upper bolt:
Lower two:
Both legs removed:
I also removed the front brakes since I am reconfiguring them for a single rotor setup:
This was all made easier with this Pitbull pin-type front stand. I used the #14 pin:
Meanwhile, back at the ranch:
Front caliper with bolts, 2 lbs. 11 oz. Add weight for the rotor and line and you are at right about 6 lbs..
You know, initially I wasn't going to call this a "build" thread. After all, I was just bolting on a few parts, right? So much for that thought:
I've got two months to get this thing race-ready....I better get moving!
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posted February 21, 2009 04:05 PM
If you can't hit 200 this season it's time to hire a jockey lol :wink
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posted February 21, 2009 04:11 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 22 Feb 2009 00:13
It's a lot harder to go 200 than one might think. If you've ever seen the Millhollands, you would know what I mean. These guys are small and super-skilled. Chad did 200 on Brock's bike and Zack has done 199 on his personal streetbike.
When I ran 190 mph my bike/rider combined weight was probably 760 lbs. When Brocks bike hit 200 the combined package was probably about 650 lbs. That is really huge in the limited distance at Maxton. Not to mention that those guys are simply more skilled than I am.
We'll see how things go. If I get the nitrous dialed in properly, my chances are very good to hit 200...now 205, that's a taller order.
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posted February 21, 2009 07:39 PM
Shane heres those pics of the short meg boot burn sorry the pipe is so dirty, bike needs cleaned and i didnt want to wipe it but you can see by the pics what i was talking about. Alot of it come about from getting my foot up for the 1-2 shift.
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posted February 21, 2009 10:55 PM
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quote:
All pipes I have seen run real close to the footpeg.
Mine was the standard smeg, but same idea as you can see here.
My heel would burn if I wasn't careful, and I couldn't adjust my rearsets back:
I wish I knew the precise weight of the rearsets. Mine are now around .5 lb lighter than stock due to the peg/heel guard swap. If you start swilling some beer this weekend, take one off and weigh it for me!
Are the heel plates on the Vortex removable (looks like not)?
Shane
I have been setting up the TIG and plasma cutter today... splitting headache so things were slow... I did buy a better scale though...
will post some more numbers tomorrow sometime
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posted February 22, 2009 11:51 AM
Shane,
I was worried about marking the pipe with my boot,
but it never touched. Kept checking it every now and then,
but never noticed a single mark.
The Shortmeg seems to sit a bit wider on the bike,
but not higher than the Alien Head from what I can see on
the different pics on the forum.
The issue I have is with my left boot's heel scraping the subframe
and switching to carbon fiber heel guard made it worst.
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