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posted February 13, 2009 04:04 PM
ah,
I see.
well will look for you anyway.
I am ordering a bunch of ti bolts on Monday too. Can see what they have.
This guy is quite reasonable, about a buck a bolt compared to $3-4.
Getting a front axle and linkage bolts that will work, as the ti bolts i had work for the 3 hole links or stock bones.
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posted February 13, 2009 04:07 PM
I haven't seen any Ti stuff that has the length of shoulder that I need.
Wow, $1 a bolt is cheap for Ti!
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posted February 13, 2009 04:16 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 14 Feb 2009 00:19
The larger bolts are twice the weight of the oem...20g each, vs. 10g.
3.5 vs. 7 oz. total for all 10.
Not a big deal, just an observation. I wonder how much they would weigh in Ti? I don't think Ti is very cost effective for weight reduction, at least on the scale of bolts.
Of course, I may be wrong!
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posted February 13, 2009 04:48 PM
No, it really isn't very cost effective except for big bolts like the the swingarm, axle, and engine bolts, but pro bolt aluminum is expensive and very limited for load ratings.
If I am going to spend the money for custom bolts, it might as well be Ti.
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posted February 14, 2009 10:57 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 14 Feb 2009 19:00
Today I weighed some exhaust system components. I'm not sure that I will find a tremendously lighter exhaust than the Muzzy M14. Maybe TiForce?
Header 7 lbs. 8 oz.
Mid Pipe 1 lb. 8 oz.
Stainless Muffler 5lb. 2 oz.
Area P Muffler 3 lb. 13.4 oz.
With Area P Carbon Muffler, this whole system weighs about 13 lbs.
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posted February 14, 2009 11:35 AM
Edited By: masszx14 on 14 Feb 2009 19:36
You will shed 4 lbs. with an Alien Head!
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posted February 14, 2009 11:50 AM
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You will shed 4 lbs. with an Alien Head!
I'm going to investigate this. Thanks.
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posted February 15, 2009 06:38 PM
I'd be all over that Shortmeg that Racers is selling in the Classifieds!
I suspect it is even lighter than the Alien Head with the baffle off.
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posted February 16, 2009 08:45 PM
Great thread, but I don't know why you're killing yourself to put stock GSXR wheels on.
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posted February 17, 2009 03:48 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 17 Feb 2009 11:51
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Great thread, but I don't know why you're killing yourself to put stock GSXR wheels on.
I like them? 
And of course they are lighter, 1/2 the cost of aftermarket, share sprockets with the 1000 we have, fairly unique on a 14, etc.
I'm not really "killing myself". More of a challenging, rewarding project, imo.
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posted February 17, 2009 11:22 AM
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quote:
Great thread, but I don't know why you're killing yourself to put stock GSXR wheels on.
I like them?
And of course they are lighter, 1/2 the cost of aftermarket, share sprockets with the 1000 we have, fairly unique on a 14, etc.
I'm not really "killing myself". More of a challenging, rewarding project, imo.
Shane
Good Answer Shane !
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posted February 17, 2009 01:32 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 17 Feb 2009 21:33
quote:
I'd be all over that Shortmeg that Racers is selling in the Classifieds!
I suspect it is even lighter than the Alien Head with the baffle off.
I just ordered a new Brock's exhaust today. There will be some updates coming soon...
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posted February 17, 2009 01:35 PM
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I just ordered a new Brock's exhaust today. There will be some updates coming soon...
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Shane if you don't mind me asking, which system did you order?
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posted February 17, 2009 01:43 PM
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Shane if you don't mind me asking, which system did you order?
I ordered a Shortmeg. I almost went with a used one, but the prospect of having it in my hands this week was too much to pass up.
If anyone is looking to buy used, I suggest they get in touch with rACeRs. Brock told me they give 100% support for owners, new or used.
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posted February 17, 2009 06:18 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 18 Feb 2009 02:41
My new bodywork arrived today.
I will be replacing these 9 oem pieces:
With these two Catalyst parts:
It will make things a lot more simple. I measure around 2.5 lbs. overall weight savings....not including the 7.5 for the headlight.
A couple of more shots:
I am not going to be fitting these for a few weeks. These are not just a "bolt-on" affair. There is drilling and some other work to be done. I've decided not to use the extended tail section I installed earlier; I didn't care for the look and had some fitment issues (these issues can be avoided).
My main priority right now is to get the bike to where it is a roller. That means the rear wheel, swingarm, forks, etc. need to be done yet. I've got about 8 weeks to get it race ready.
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posted February 17, 2009 06:31 PM
If your selling your old plastic id like to be 1st in line to buy it.
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posted February 17, 2009 06:34 PM
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If your selling your old plastic id like to be 1st in line to buy it.
No plans to do so as of yet; I'll let you know if that changes.
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posted February 19, 2009 12:38 AM
Hope my catalyst side panels show up soon too....
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posted February 19, 2009 02:44 AM
THANK YOU for not ordering the catalyst extended rear section. So ugly...... It will look good though without the head lights. Looks like you have yourself a pure track bike now though. Why don't you go to a non- o-ring chain too since you can't ride it on the street. From what I understand that save a lot of weight.
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posted February 19, 2009 06:01 AM
I did run the extended tail for a bit, but I'm not too thrilled with it for my use.
I have a non o-ring chain, DRZ-2, on the bike...it is pretty heavy...much thicker plates than stock. I have some pics in the thread early on.
The bike is still "safe" for the street in the daylight. I am also keeping a brake/tail light installed. Just in case I need to run it through the gears or troubleshoot any issues on the street. In my state you don't need to run signals. I may rig up a clamp on headlight, then it will pass state inspection.
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posted February 19, 2009 06:55 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Feb 2009 15:08
More action with the scales this morning. Here are the weights of some stock pieces, as accurate as my scales will allow:
Stock Seat and Cowl:
7 lbs. 10 oz.
Muffler hanger/Peg Bracket:
1 lb. 4 oz.
Mirror:
1 lb.
End Weight:
9 oz.
Rear fender assembly:
1 lb. 12 oz.
Belly pan and bracket:
1 lb. 2 oz.
Stock Exhaust System:
Muffler/Midpipe Assemblies: 14.5 lbs. ea.
Header 9 lbs.
Total 38 lbs.
Dubious has some more weight measurements of stock pieces in his thread:
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=44750&pagenumber=4
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posted February 19, 2009 07:33 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 19 Feb 2009 15:38
Taking into account my weight measurements and what I have taken from the bike, here is the way it stacks up right now:
Weight Loss:
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Seat 5
Headlight 7.5
Battery 5
Front Wheel 1
Front brake 6
Front fender 2
Exhaust 30
Rear Wheel 5
Body 2.5
Frame 2.5
End Weights 1.5
Gas Cap .5
Rear fender 1.5
Mirrors 2
Belly Pan 1
Peg Hangers 2.5
Insulation/Damping 3
Tool Kit 2.5
Total 81 lbs.
My goal, race-ready, is 475 lbs. So, more math:
Stock weight, full of fluids 565 lbs. (Based on various sources)
Minus 81 lbs. reduction 484 lbs.
I do not run a full tank of gas. I will be running around 2 gallons.
3.8 gallons of gas @ 6 lbs. per gallon = 22.8 lbs.
Bike with 2 gallons of gas 461.2 lbs.
That leaves me with 13.8 lbs. of weight that I can add back (swingarm, air shifter, etc) Right now I figure I have used about 7 lbs. of that up. I still have to add in the nitrous system. I also have a couple of more places I am going to shed weight, so I am pretty sure I will reach my 475 lb. race-ready goal...but it's going to be close.
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posted February 19, 2009 07:52 AM
that's bad ass shane. i don't think it'll be too long before you hit your 200mph mark at maxton.
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posted February 19, 2009 08:36 AM
haha.... you forgot to add in your 3oz flies 
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posted February 19, 2009 08:47 AM
Thanks for the measurements brah !
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