dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted December 02, 2008 05:31 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 3 Dec 2008 01:36
I am using gsxr wheels.
For the rear end, I am using a Macintosh arm with the 28mm axle blocks and axle, custom wheels spacers, and a shim plate to get the sprockets back in alignment. As well the gsxr caliper bracket is required.
Zx14 rear axle is 25mm.
I found the zx14 fork caliper brackets did not have the same centerline as the rotors on the gsxr wheel. In addition to wheels spacers, the rotors will need to be shimmed.
I was thinking of cutting some washers using .030" shim stock, but then the tapered rotor bolts will not center the rotors on the wheel as designed.
I decided to use an entire gsxr front end, but have not had the t clamps machined to fit the zx14 steering stem and steering brgs yet.
Shane, can you let me know if you find the same issue with rotor / caliper spacing?
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
  
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 02, 2008 05:39 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 3 Dec 2008 01:39
quote:
I am using gsxr wheels.
For the rear end, I am using a Macintosh arm with the 28mm axle blocks and axle, custom wheels spacers, and a shim plate to get the sprockets back in alignment. As well the gsxr caliper bracket is required.
Zx14 rear axle is 25mm.
I found the zx14 fork caliper brackets did not have the same centerline as the rotors on the gsxr wheel. In addition to wheels spacers, the rotors will need to be shimmed.
I was thinking of cutting some washers using .030" shim stock, but then the tapered rotor bolts will not center the rotors on the wheel as designed.
I decided to use an entire gsxr front end, but have not had the t clamps machined to fit the zx14 steering stem and steering brgs yet.
Shane, can you let me know if you find the same issue with rotor / caliper spacing?
I'll definitely let you know what I find. I am still waiting to get a tracking number for the package...it seems that the holiday is making for slow response from the shipper.
Shane
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted December 02, 2008 06:05 PM
Edited By: dubious on 3 Dec 2008 02:08
Personally, for $1200, Carozierra's are much easier way to go.
IMO I wouldn't do the conversion again... Big PITA.
I finally will be able to regain focus on Frankenstein again next week.
I can't wait!
my LIGHTWEIGHT tail section, with the gsxr wheels
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 02, 2008 06:06 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 3 Dec 2008 02:16
Nice. Did you happen to weigh the Mcintosh arm? Is that an Alumipro?
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted December 02, 2008 06:11 PM
Edited By: dubious on 3 Dec 2008 02:13
Yes alumipro.
It is heavy! about twice the weight of stock for a 5-9" stretch.
That sucker is beefy though. I think the frame would twist first.
Put it this way, I guarantee it will not put me into the rail from swingarm flex!
Terry makes awesome stuff!
I highly recommend his arms. I had a 6" over Trac arm on it before.
It has the battery tray built in, as i want o put some other stuff in the stock battery box.
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 02, 2008 06:18 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 3 Dec 2008 02:19
quote:
Personally, for $1200, Carozierra's are much easier way to go.
IMO I wouldn't do the conversion again... Big PITA.
I thought about them. I had a set of their V1 wheels and the company did not treat me well.
Where can you get them for $1200??
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted December 02, 2008 06:19 PM
Edited By: dubious on 3 Dec 2008 02:20
I should mention, that in order to get the rear caliper on the gsxr rotor, I had to use the gsxr bracket, which will be used with a brake arm,
The rotors are completely different bolt paterns, offset, and center hole sized.
I found pingel sells exoticycle billet rear caliper brackets, that eliminate need for the arm!
Nice and Clean.
I was initially going to changer wheel brgs over to the zx14 25mm inner diameter, but then the zx14 caliper bracket was spaced all wrong for the gsxr rotor, so going with the 28mm axle and axle blocks in the aftermarket arm really simplified things.
If you decide to go with a swingarm let me know, we'll get on the horn and i can send you more detailed pics.
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted December 02, 2008 06:37 PM
quote:
quote:
Personally, for $1200, Carozierra's are much easier way to go.
IMO I wouldn't do the conversion again... Big PITA.
I thought about them. I had a set of their V1 wheels and the company did not treat me well.
Where can you get them for $1200??
My bad I meant $2100
I have seen them as low as $1700 though.
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 03, 2008 12:46 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 3 Dec 2008 21:59
My race season is now officially over:
It's a long winter and it is my intent to rethink the bike from the ground up. I have several upgrades/changes in mind. Now it's just a matter of setting some goals and then rebuilding the machine to achieve them. Simple, huh? 
During the the disassembly I found something of concern:
One of the header flanges had come loose! The bike was still running fine, and wasn't making any clatter. The exhaust also showed no signs of a lean condition, so somehow it was still sealed (at least partially). Based on this, I would keep an eye on those header nuts and re-tighten them after some good heat cycling. I didn't re-tighten them after Maxton, and I should have.
Shane
|
KZScott
Needs a life
high on speed
Posts: 7235
|
posted December 03, 2008 10:58 PM
you were actually missing those 2 header nuts?? I wouldnt trust that exhaust system ever again, you need to sell it and put one of the new rotary mufflers on that sits right in front of the motor
nice MPG
____________
01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 04, 2008 06:35 AM
quote:
you were actually missing those 2 header nuts?? I wouldnt trust that exhaust system ever again, you need to sell it and put one of the new rotary mufflers on that sits right in front of the motor
nice MPG
The mpg is actually off. I have been running the speedohealer dialed down for the last 100 miles. I imagine I'm actually getting twentysomething mpg.
Shane
|
masszx14
Pro
A mind beside itself!
Posts: 1806
|
posted December 04, 2008 12:57 PM
Edited By: masszx14 on 4 Dec 2008 21:23
On the wheels again...
The zx14 uses a 32 mm rear axle , not 25 mm.
25 mm is the front axle, so is the 06-09 zx10 and the 07-08 zx6.
The GSX-R 1000 uses a 36 mm rear axle- that's why you would
need a sleeve machined to compensate for the difference and you
can't just go with the different i.d. bearings coz they'll get crushed.
I finally put my rear on and love it- the difference is huge!
And I bought the wheel on ebay in excellent shape for $200 shipped.
I also use a 240mm Galfer gen1 Busa brake rotor since the stock gixer is only 220mm.
____________
universal@mind
|
masszx14
Pro
A mind beside itself!
Posts: 1806
|
posted December 04, 2008 01:04 PM
Ans also- a set of Marchesini forged aluminum rims for the zx14 is more than
2 lbs. lighter rhan the Carrozzeria set... and about $400 more expensive.
____________
universal@mind
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 04, 2008 01:44 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 4 Dec 2008 21:55
Ever since I installed the exhaust system on the bike I have been thinking of changing the muffler. I am not really into shiny machines, and the polished alumninum Muzzy canister is just too flashy for my taste. So the question was, what type of can to fit?
I have dealt with Kerry Bryant at Area P in the past. I ordered a system for the 10R that I had...and the product was top notch and so was the customer service. Unfortunately, I never had a chance to install the system. I decided to give Area P a call, and see if they could make me a muffler for my full system. Within a minute I was talking directly to Kerry. After discussing some exhaust tech and fitment issues, I placed a custom order.
That was last Friday...the muffler was built the same day, to my specs, and shipped that afternoon. It arrived today, packaged and protected excellently:
Normally I wouldn't mention the packaging, but in this case I think it shows the level of care for the customer...and the product. Here it is unwrapped:
I ordered a shorter can than the Muzzy:
And a larger baffle, with the flat conical end cap (larger opening than standard, as well):
This muffler is of very high quality. I had some reservations about the Carbon, for racing, but the quality used here is better than in many other systems. Ditto on the high quality baffle packing material.
I couldn't wait, and I had to at least test fit it on the bike:
I also weighed the two mufflers, and found that the Area P was 1 lb. lighter. I can't run the bike for awhile, but I am sure that it will sound and perform as good as it looks!
For anyone interested in a custom muffler or slip-on system, I highly recommend Area P. The customer service and product are top notch! 
http://www.areapnolimits.com
Shane
|
CrotchRocket
Moderator
Bracket Racing with Betsy
Posts: 8038
|
posted December 04, 2008 03:42 PM
Edited By: CrotchRocket on 5 Dec 2008 01:42
That is going to be loud Shane
But if you had these pipes on your 14, then the bolts wouldnt have come loose
pic deleted due to it's offensive appearence!!!
____________
Jason Miller StreetBike Seminars
*****DragRacers do it better, because they dont cut Corners*****
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 04, 2008 03:54 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 5 Dec 2008 01:58
Thanks Rick. 
|
kawasaki_rick
Zone Head
Posts: 512
|
posted December 04, 2008 04:02 PM
Please paint\powdercoat that clutch access cover. Its been driving me crazy for 2 weeks.
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 04, 2008 04:10 PM
I had thought of painting or powdercoating it. But I don't want to risk a finish that the heat adversely impacts. Also, once you chip powerdercoat (easy to do) there is no easy fix. The bare aluminum look is ok with me...now polished, that's just too much.
Shane
|
smokinzx14
Needs a life
Posts: 10197
|
posted December 04, 2008 04:12 PM
quote:
That is going to be loud Shane
But if you had these pipes on your 14, then the bolts wouldnt have come loose
Steve said he would hit that !!
____________
Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
|
bawls
Needs a job
re-learning to ride
Posts: 2701
|
posted December 04, 2008 05:14 PM
look at how long her torso is lmfao... What a freak
____________
Best 60ft: 1.42
Best 1/8th: 5.97
Best 1/8th MPH: 119
Brockland Police Badge # 001
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 04, 2008 05:17 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 5 Dec 2008 02:01
.
|
Shane661
Needs a life
Posts: 11494
|
posted December 04, 2008 05:27 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 5 Dec 2008 01:39
Right before I went to the track last, I installed the race upper fairing. Naturally, when I tightened the last bolt the upper cracked:
I also didn't like how the holes for the mirror mounts were chipped up from the coarse bit I used. So, first I ground away the crack in the gelcoat and smoothed the holes out with a dremel:
Then I filled the crack using fiberglass repair epoxy:
Sanded:
Primed:
I've heard that it's pretty easy to crack race bodywork. Hopefully I won't have the problem again since I cleaned up the mounting holes and nothing is in a bind. Other than that I'll be giving everything a light sand before I put a final coat of primer on. Then we'll see about paint..
Shane
|
KZScott
Needs a life
high on speed
Posts: 7235
|
posted December 04, 2008 08:22 PM
thats a nice one, but i still think the rotary muffler would work better lol
the area p can forgot something regarding areos. theres no tip pointing the exhaust straight back. its pointing up and interfering with the airflow coming down over your back and tail section. probly wont affect the dragstrip, but top end runs will be affected some
____________
01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
|
dcjens
Pro
Wet side of Washington
Posts: 1059
|
posted December 04, 2008 08:35 PM
quote:
look at how long her torso is lmfao... What a freak
pffff! h e r?? she has a bean bag
____________
Black 06
|
bawls
Needs a job
re-learning to ride
Posts: 2701
|
posted December 04, 2008 09:51 PM
lol among other things...
Nothing wrong with a little bean baggage though right? lmfao
____________
Best 60ft: 1.42
Best 1/8th: 5.97
Best 1/8th MPH: 119
Brockland Police Badge # 001
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC
