StrokedOutZX14
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posted July 04, 2008 01:07 PM
Secondaries Removed
I just took my secondaries out, can I take my t.r.e out and get my gear indicator back? The TRE was opening the flies earlier giving a 6th gear map in every gear correct? so with flies out, I should no longer need the tre? someone please reassure me
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07 ZX14 Stroked to 1530cc
Muzzy 5mm Stroker Crank, 86mm JE Pistons, Carillo Connecting Rods, Muzzy Billet Cams, Muzzy Valve Springs, Rings, Pins, Clips.
Muzzy M10 Exhaust
K&N Air Filter
Power Commander 3 With Ignition Module.
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FasterThanStink
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posted July 04, 2008 01:15 PM
You no longer need the TRE but you do need a Power Commander to prevent a very lean condition at lower RPM's. You just added a ton of air. Now you need to add fuel. Your bike will run smoother and have more power low down.
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suddenly becoming stationary...
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StrokedOutZX14
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posted July 04, 2008 01:22 PM
i have a pc3 as well as the ignition module
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07 ZX14 Stroked to 1530cc
Muzzy 5mm Stroker Crank, 86mm JE Pistons, Carillo Connecting Rods, Muzzy Billet Cams, Muzzy Valve Springs, Rings, Pins, Clips.
Muzzy M10 Exhaust
K&N Air Filter
Power Commander 3 With Ignition Module.
Secondaries Removed
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StrokedOutZX14
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posted July 04, 2008 01:25 PM
need to download a new map then, I have kn filter, and a muzzy m10 exhaust
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07 ZX14 Stroked to 1530cc
Muzzy 5mm Stroker Crank, 86mm JE Pistons, Carillo Connecting Rods, Muzzy Billet Cams, Muzzy Valve Springs, Rings, Pins, Clips.
Muzzy M10 Exhaust
K&N Air Filter
Power Commander 3 With Ignition Module.
Secondaries Removed
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bigdtd
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posted July 04, 2008 01:29 PM
you can get a flies out from muzzy or dynojet, do some googling fts is right you do not need a tre
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StrokedOutZX14
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posted July 04, 2008 02:04 PM
Well I downloaded the muzzy full exhaust and secondaries removed map, took off my tre, and started the bike, Have not rode it yet with the flies out, but I can tell it rev's like my busa did. thats the only thing i miss on my 14, and that's the instant power from my hayabusa. Well by the way this is reving I believe I will have that instant power. goody
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07 ZX14 Stroked to 1530cc
Muzzy 5mm Stroker Crank, 86mm JE Pistons, Carillo Connecting Rods, Muzzy Billet Cams, Muzzy Valve Springs, Rings, Pins, Clips.
Muzzy M10 Exhaust
K&N Air Filter
Power Commander 3 With Ignition Module.
Secondaries Removed
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FasterThanStink
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posted July 04, 2008 03:16 PM
Trust me. You WILL have instant power! Enjoy. 
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FastestBusaAround
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posted July 04, 2008 08:46 PM
Add 16/43's and then you'll see what instant power is...but hold on tight, because it'll rip yer fucking shoulders right out of your sockets...and break your back if you're not expecting it. You'll never ride that Busa again and you'll never go back to stock gearing.
BTW, one of the things I did notice on my 06 and my 08, is that in the higher gears, there is always a slight delay until the power kicks in on this engine, unless you load it 1st (same as my Connie)...and that's with or without my 4 degree advance on the ignition timing (which by the way, makes it pull even harder!)
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fish_antlers
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posted July 04, 2008 10:09 PM
throw the tre in the trash... it does nothing for you if you've removed the flies.
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big mike_zx14
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posted July 05, 2008 03:06 AM
I'm anxious to hear your thought after the first ride is in......
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Akrapovic Full Race System, PC3, BMC Race Filters, Puig Windscreen, Helibars, Pro Grips, Clear Alternatives LED Integrated Tailight, Gilles Rearsets, Extreme Graphics Hugger, Engine Ice, Dino Hinge...
2007 ZX14....
Brocks Gen 3 w/carbon can, PC III, BMC Race Filter, Amsoil, Engine Ice, ShoGun parking lot sliders, Puig DB windscreen, Heli Bar risers, Pro Grip gel's, Competition Werks fender eliminator, Vortex rear sets, No flies...More to come of course..
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StrokedOutZX14
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posted July 05, 2008 12:45 PM
Well got the bike out last night. First time with no flies. I been riding a long time. My first bike was a brand new 1986 honda hurricane 1000. Bought a new bike every 2-4 years since 1986 and i gotta say it actually scared me a little. I was on a long sweeper exiting the interstate, barely twisted the throttle in second gear and it instantly took the weight off the front. I did take the TRE off and got my gear indicator back. 1st gear at 2500 rpm's, if u whack the throttle it wheelies at 2500 rpm's no clutch up just throttle. thats unheard of lol but i gotta say i like it. Kawasaki definitely put the secondaries in as a safety issue. Remove them and damn she comes to life.
power commander 3
dynojet ignition module
K&N Filters
Secondaries now removed
Muzzy M10 4 into 1
radar detector
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07 ZX14 Stroked to 1530cc
Muzzy 5mm Stroker Crank, 86mm JE Pistons, Carillo Connecting Rods, Muzzy Billet Cams, Muzzy Valve Springs, Rings, Pins, Clips.
Muzzy M10 Exhaust
K&N Air Filter
Power Commander 3 With Ignition Module.
Secondaries Removed
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Tool man
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posted July 05, 2008 03:12 PM
Yup 
Welcome to the real ..... ZX14
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dcjens
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posted July 05, 2008 04:20 PM
I did the same thing. I sold the tre on ebay after having it for a day. I didnt having the gear indicator on 6. I had a earlier post wondering if having the timing retarded (without the tre) was a bad thing.
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drewzx-14
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posted July 06, 2008 12:06 PM
Those flies being removed are a world of a difference. I can't seem to keep the front wheel on the ground. Im deciding right now if I would need a steering damper but otherwise its insane. Decel pop is to a minimal and it doesn't bother me. It's the best thing i could have ever done to a motorcycle. I included a full exhaust and it was such a difference with the weight loss as well. It is as if I had bought a new bike.
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bigdtd
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posted July 30, 2008 03:50 PM
the setup changed in the top to the bottom, weird
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posted July 30, 2008 08:35 PM
quote:
the setup changed in the top to the bottom, weird
+1
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702fowler
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posted July 30, 2008 09:34 PM
youre actually running a 1530 on the street and you still have the secondaries in it?
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Smooth_G
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posted July 30, 2008 10:39 PM
ya ya,,full brock system,flies removed,,p/c,,n 16/43,,it hauls ass,,i have 7k n it still surprises me,,
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bigdtd
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posted July 31, 2008 04:22 PM
quote:
youre actually running a 1530 on the street and you still have the secondaries in it?
thats the point there was no1530 when the flies were pulled DOH
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ninja14
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posted August 01, 2008 05:42 PM
I rode for months w/o the flies or PC...........AF gauge showed it survivable.
I later put a resistor in the GPS and it stays in N now.........easy tuning.
With the 16/43 and no flies it freakin' hauls.......
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fifth
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posted August 02, 2008 05:07 PM
quote:
Well got the bike out last night. First time with no flies. I been riding a long time. My first bike was a brand new 1986 honda hurricane 1000. Bought a new bike every 2-4 years since 1986 and i gotta say it actually scared me a little. I was on a long sweeper exiting the interstate, barely twisted the throttle in second gear and it instantly took the weight off the front. I did take the TRE off and got my gear indicator back. 1st gear at 2500 rpm's, if u whack the throttle it wheelies at 2500 rpm's no clutch up just throttle. thats unheard of lol but i gotta say i like it. Kawasaki definitely put the secondaries in as a safety issue. Remove them and damn she comes to life.
power commander 3
dynojet ignition module
K&N Filters
Secondaries now removed
Muzzy M10 4 into 1
radar detector
In 1986, the big Honda was a VFR-1000....the Hurricanes didn't start until '87.... someone correct me if I am wrong.......
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shane661
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posted August 02, 2008 05:34 PM
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In 1986, the big Honda was a VFR-1000....the Hurricanes didn't start until '87.... someone correct me if I am wrong.......
You are correct sir...the VF1000R....a big V4. In fact, I happen to own an '85 with some choice 1986 pieces:
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AZ ZX14
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posted August 02, 2008 05:56 PM
Nice!
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Flies out
PCIII / USB
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fifth
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posted August 02, 2008 09:41 PM
Sooooooooooooooo.....he didn't own a 1986 Hurricane 1000......hmmmmm
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stevewfl
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posted August 03, 2008 04:35 AM
A friend of mine restored one of those Honda's and its a BEAST. Its incredible riding that bike, I wasn't expecting half the power or handling performance out of such an old V4 bike!
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'08 R1 YAMAHA
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