jeff martin
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posted May 20, 2008 08:41 PM
Better yet ! dont insure it, So my insurance doesn't go up..The 14 was my 17th street "sportbike" and many other crusiers and dirt bike's. At times i find the 14 to be a bit much for the street. Power sliding out of corners is almost hard not to do with the 14. The power is way more than most sportbikes and its much more than just keeping your hand trained not to crank it on. So lets say you do buy the bike and your riding in your mind pretty fast and you come out of a corner and crank it on, and out of the blue the rear tire breaks loose are you skilled enough to prevent a high side crash. Well by then you havent riden enough to know to change your body position to regain control. I am not suggestion you dont buy. Its just that if you do your chances are much greater you will hurt yourself on a 14. With thousands of possible senerios the 14 is not forgiving. But a 600cc or even a 1000cc can be much easier to control. Good Luck !
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ekz
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posted May 21, 2008 06:32 AM
get a used ninja 250 and learn how to ride first. very forgiving throttle, lightweight so easier to control, etc. take msf course to start and do not even consider a passenger until you are a better rider. best of luck.
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lietoome
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posted May 21, 2008 07:59 AM
If you're worried about how cool you look on it, don't buy it. Your priorities seem askew.
If you're serious about a long term love affair with motorcycling, and enjoying a ride with your loved ones, do as folks on here suggest. Start smaller and work your way up.
I started on an '03 zx12 because I'm a big sumbitch, I should have started on a different bike, but I've managed. I've got a 14 now, and I still want a cheaper bike to improve my skills on. There are limitations that I just wont flirt with on this bike...and I truely believe that hampers my riding skills.
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Sticks_n_Stones
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posted May 21, 2008 08:20 AM
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If you're worried about how cool you look on it, don't buy it. Your priorities seem askew.
If you're serious about a long term love affair with motorcycling, and enjoying a ride with your loved ones, do as folks on here suggest. Start smaller and work your way up.
I started on an '03 zx12 because I'm a big sumbitch, I should have started on a different bike, but I've managed. I've got a 14 now, and I still want a cheaper bike to improve my skills on. There are limitations that I just wont flirt with on this bike...and I truely believe that hampers my riding skills.
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Done some reflecting on the matter I see. Believe me Lietome, this is one subject I truly hate being right about, because I've seen too many guys either crash, scare themselves so bad they wont get back on another bike, or become 'garage riders' who rarely venture out.
And I had the unintentional bonus of only being able to afford a 250 Ninja, then 600 Ninja, to learn on. But learn I did, and with every bike after that 600 I lost a bit of the sheer joy and fun I was able to have on that little bike. I miss that alot and would have one this instant if I was still "only" 6'3" and 210 lbs like I was when I was 16.
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lietoome
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posted May 21, 2008 09:33 AM
 Edited By: lietoome on 21 May 2008 10:33
If I'd worried more about my skills instead of the coolness of my bike or my 'image', I'd probablly be a MUCH, MUCH better rider. I live and learn, sometimes I just do it backwards.
Sim, the 'askew' part of my comment above was not an insult, it was intended to show you my flaw, and the reason that I'm not as experienced as I should be.
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NinjaNick
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'08 ZX14 (Blue)
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posted May 21, 2008 10:06 AM
I was 6'2 and went from 220lbs to 265lbs on my 600. Unless you're 6'6 SIM, I don't see how it matters. I think most of it is in your head and you want to lie yourself into needing the 14.
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simzx14
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posted May 21, 2008 10:12 AM
Nice!! I appreciate all of the input I have been getting. I think I have been successfully talked out of the zx14. I probally won't change my user name though (LOL) but if I get a sport bike it will probally be the zx250 just to learn to ride. I really wish the 500 looked better, it's pretty ugly. I would prefer to start there to get more time out of it. More likely however, I may be getting a cruiser, as I said before I liked the zx14's comfortability. Apparently that's not the only thing the zx14 has a lot of, lol. Thanks again guys!!
PS. Yeah! I'm a profiler with priorities askew, lol no offence taken.
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butta4hc
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posted May 22, 2008 04:05 AM
My first bike was a 1999 ZX-11. 140+ at the rear wheel. Never had a problem with it getting away from me or anything. IMHO, While the 14 is an absolute brute, it is a very forgiving bike when you are finessing the throttle. On the flip side of that though is IF you goose the throttle intentionally (or unintenionally) it will put some hair on your chest, or take some off, lol. But seriously, I wish you the absolute best in whatever it is that you decide. I can't tell you what to do because I did it backwards myself.
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2006 Black ZX-14 - Recall Frame Swap, Full Muzzy GP Exhaust, PCIII, BMC Race Filter, Flies Out, Braided Front Brake & Cutch Lines, Muzzy's Radiator Fan, Engine Ice Coolant, Frame Sliders, SubFrame Sliders, Puig Dark Smoke Windscreen, Powerbronze Hugger, Cox Radiator Guard, Unswitched Powerlet Outlet under seat, Switched Powerlet Outlet On Right Duct Panel, Intergrated Tail Light, HID lights high and low beam, Blue corner marker lights, Eclipse License Plate Blackout Kit, Black Pazzo Levers, Scorpio Alarm, Lojack Theft Recovery System, Rapid Transit Triple Tree Bag, Cortech Tank, Tail & Saddle Bags and the bragging rights for being "The Fastest 14 In The Country" for a few weeks when the 14 made it's debut here in the states.
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simzx14
Parking Attendant
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posted May 22, 2008 02:54 PM
Butta,
NJ represent! I am going home to NJ this weekend. I think we just do shit and what ever happends happends - jersey style. I know another guy from Jersey who did the same with a Busa! lol.
I think I am going to chill on the 14 though. Wify likes this KingPin 8-Ball better than the M109R2. So, looks like I will be obsessing over that bike for another year.
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man00
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posted May 24, 2008 11:22 AM
the 14 is a big and on the heavy side, the power can be controled very easy with the throttle. But IMO it would be getting use to the weight of the bike doing slow turns, stops..ect.....imo
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butterthegreat
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posted May 24, 2008 07:52 PM
I don't reccomend a ZX-14 as a first bike....even though I learned to ride on a 1000.
My ZX-14 was my 3rd bike....just cause I wanted a bigger bike...I still love my 600rr though. And I am 6'2" @ 300 lbs....
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Bawls
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re-learning to ride
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posted May 25, 2008 06:52 AM
Why not get a zzr600 to learn on? That or an sv650 is a great learning bike in my opinion. Still plenty fast, but very forgiving, and more comfortable than most 600's. Another thing to consider. I honestly wouldn't reccomend a 109 as your first bike either. You're talking about a cruiser that will smack a 600rr's ass in the 1/8th mile. No it's not going to be in your face all the time, but in my opinion a cruiser that gets you in a hairy situation is worse than a sport bike because your limits are way less. My dad rides an 07 m109r that with the exception of his JSD-3m (TRE) runs 7.30's in bone stock trim. Stick to something a little slower for your first bike. That would be like jumping on a vmax as your first bike back in 1985. Good luck with whatever you get, and have fun riding. There's nothing like it.
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