kimski2001
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posted May 08, 2008 06:08 AM
T.R.U.E M.P.H!
Me and my buddies have a on going debate over actual top end numbers on the zuk,kaw litre bikes,zx12,zx14 and the busa.i know some of you landspeed guys know the answer.i need true numbers not( my speedo says 189 on my gixxer1000!)thanks guys.(p.s i posted this thread on psychobike also some of you guys might not go on there.(STOCK FROM FACTORY)
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bigdtd
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posted May 08, 2008 08:42 AM
brock's diaries have some good mph info, if you have a speedohealer and enough room and straight road to top it out you can get 200 from a 14. hell the experts do it in a mile........
if you are talking pure stock they are limited to 186mph or so
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BobC
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posted May 08, 2008 08:45 AM
 Edited By: BobC on 8 May 2008 09:45
Electronic timing accurate to 0.1mph good enough?
see below
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Candy Thunder Blue 2006 ZZR1400
Stock wheelbase
Max: 205.4 mph in 1.25 miles
2012 ZZR1400 in Golden Blazed Green
Brock CT Full System. etc
Max: 203.1 in 1 mile (so far)
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Ranast
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posted May 08, 2008 02:28 PM
quote:
Electronic timing accurate to 0.1mph good enough?
see below
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Blue ZZR1400
TiForce + PC + SH
192.9 rw bhp
112.4 ft-lbs rw torque
205.4 mph
Bob, a pipe, powercommander, and speedo healer were the only mods to your bike for that speed?
That's fantastic.
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BlackMagic14
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posted May 08, 2008 07:57 PM
I think most bikes are a LOT slower then people think. I think your typical 1000 with pipe and power commander will NOT hit 186, but that is just my opinion
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BobC
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posted May 09, 2008 02:42 AM
Ranast.
The only other alterations are Muzzy lowering links and a strapped front end, plus mirrors off of course. Everything else is standard, unopened motor and stock wheelbase + OE tires.
Oh and a bit of practise. 
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Candy Thunder Blue 2006 ZZR1400
Stock wheelbase
Max: 205.4 mph in 1.25 miles
2012 ZZR1400 in Golden Blazed Green
Brock CT Full System. etc
Max: 203.1 in 1 mile (so far)
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kimski2001
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posted May 09, 2008 06:39 AM
quote:
I think most bikes are a LOT slower then people think. I think your typical 1000 with pipe and power commander will NOT hit 186, but that is just my opinion
thats my thought too.im thinking maybe high 170's thanks guys for all your imput!
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dubious
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posted May 09, 2008 07:29 AM
use a GPS....
the literbikes might get close on top speed but it will take them a while to get there...
the big bores pull relentlessly in comparison, especially near top speed...
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butterthegreat
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posted May 09, 2008 09:05 AM
My 600 will get to a radar accurate 160 mph and not go ANY faster...so I would assume a liter could actually get to 186 pretty easily.
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Hawkman
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posted May 09, 2008 09:22 AM
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My 600 will get to a radar accurate 160 mph and not go ANY faster...so I would assume a liter could actually get to 186 pretty easily.
I wouldn't. I'll say 181 mph. 
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princesskiwi
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posted May 09, 2008 09:37 AM
I didn't realize how much my speedo was out until I put a Garmin GPS on my bike. Now when someone tells me their top speed, I skeptically ask them if they had a GPS on their bike. If they say they are going off what the bike is telling them on the speedo - then I know they ARE NOT as fast as they think they are.
Conspiracy theorist are convinced that manufactures increase the speed that the bike reads to clock off the miles so that the bike jumps out of warranty faster...something to think about.
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Hawkman
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posted May 09, 2008 10:05 AM
I think it's more that manufacturers are required to be accurate at some set MPH readings, and beyond that they're not worried so much about taking into account all the different things that speed effects. I remember my speedo being pretty accurate up to 70mph. Beyond that, the inaccuracy began to widen as the speed increased. Unlike speedo happy Suzukis, my Kawis topped out at 10% inaccuracy(200mph speedo = 180mph GPS).
For a bike, there's a lot to consider in measuring higher speeds. Gear ratio, tire size/diameter/expansion, ambient temperature, friction/tire slippage, etc. Am I right, fellas?
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wrongway
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posted May 09, 2008 11:30 AM
there is the issue that a larger person wil lhave a much worse Cd compared to the same bike with a small rider. The shape of the fairings on most of these bikes was designed around a small rider.
And that makes a huge difference.... So while these bikes may all go 188 , they may not go 188 with any rider.
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Sticks_n_Stones
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posted May 09, 2008 11:56 AM
What the hell you trying to say Wrongway?!?! It's all about the bike, not the rider! I'm getting tired of people saying my size is why my bike is so slow. It's not my fault I got a lemon from those bastards at Kawasaki!!
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princesskiwi
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posted May 09, 2008 12:02 PM
That's hot!
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