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posted May 02, 2008 11:26 AM
 Edited By: kcadby on 2 May 2008 12:55
MSD Ignition for ZX14!!!
Been months (again) since I've been here but have GREAT news for ZX14 owners/RACERS!!!
We (MPSracing) did the Dyno and Track Testing for MSD on the new "SB-6" (SportBike-6) Ignition...
VERY cool unit!!!
Does LOTS of stuff... 
First off...it's comes with a very nice Wire Harness that connects to the OEM Coils/OEM Harness, Crank Trigger...
It also Taps into the Clutch Switch, Speed Sensor, and has one additional 0-5v. input that can be used to activate timing functions for boost (0-5v.Pressure Sensor) 
For testing of the Prototype unit, I used the 0-5v TPS on Jim Hynson's ZX14 to test/see the "Sensor Advance Curve" work and because this unit also DATA LOGS!!!
I also used the throttle position for input because the bike didn't have turbo or NO2 (at that time  )...
There is also a switched input to active the timing features with switch or relay...
The SB-6 has many of the features that the MC-4 has (SB-6 not on MSD.com...yet...) including programable Shift Kill Time 20-100 M-Sec AND programable delay which preloads the shifter before the ignition kills!!!
2-step for launch RPM is connected to ClutchSwitch...
SB-6 removes and/or adds timing (-20 to +6*)...
Shift Light Output which has "street or Drag" setting...
Street setting: activates ShiftLight at same RPM for every gear, Drag setting: RPM can be set for 5-shift/rpms...
http://www.mpsracing.com will be building/selling an AutoShifter that is activated by the MSD SB-6 ShiftLight Output
SB-6 also has an external POT on it to select multiple timing curves (pre-programed by owner) without having to connect to computer
LOTS of coool stuff...well thought out unit...
We also Dyno/Track tested the SB-6 Prototype for BUSA and have already tested the MPS AutoShifter for SB-6 on that bike (ZX14 already had MPS AutoShifter on it) and it worked PERFECTLY...
BOTH units for ZX14 and Busa worked Flawlessly!!!
The unit pictured is the Prototype...that's why it looks glued together the Production Units look exactly the same without the glue and with SB-6/model, serial number on them
Here is one of the LogGraphs from a test run...
The vertical line that is at 5.50 seconds (numbers at top of graph) is there so you can see what all the lines (Traces) are...see the "File 1 Traces/Analyze" window...lower right of graph...
The line is right at the top of 3rd-gear...
Coool to see the Trottle Position (green Trace) and how it was oscillated because of wheelie/tire spin when launched...
The unit starts recording (saving log) 1-second before launch (vertical line left end of graph is automaticaly set to 0-sec. when bike moves)...
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kspz3
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posted May 02, 2008 12:04 PM
And the estimated street cost for this magic hardware is?
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BlackMagic14
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posted May 02, 2008 12:58 PM
Yep You convinced me, I want one!!! but how much is it going to cost and when will it be available
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kcadby
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posted May 02, 2008 09:55 PM
Don't know cost yet...
Keep an eye on the links that are in the post...MPS will get some of the first units shipped
I will post the cost and shipping date when it becomes available...
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kingtramp
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posted May 03, 2008 04:53 PM
Hey Kevin
Box is working fine, gald to see the post, graph looks good, so is the turbo up and running ok, Orlando has a PTS race this coming SAT. Well later
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kcadby
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posted May 04, 2008 12:11 PM
Good as old Sir...
Rode it home last weekend...all I need to do is put the BoostControl Sol. and shift bottle back on
VERY dirty...but here it is...last weekend...
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dubious
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posted May 04, 2008 02:36 PM
Edited By: dubious on 4 May 2008 15:37
can it be set up to pull timing based on boost pressure?
is it a linear curve, or progressive timing retard?
I am in the market for a efir made by schnitz, which is back ordered, as I need to pull timing based on boost pressure
I also have the launch master already.
I can sell my msd pen shiftlight, and launch master, and use this unit for all and as a ign retarder box, and kill for air shifter too?
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kcadby
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posted May 10, 2008 05:39 PM
Edited By: kcadby on 10 May 2008 19:16
dubious
Sorry...haven't been back till today...
Yes timing can be taken out for boost via map sensor...
You can "plot" it on a praph as you like/need...
Here is an example I made for you...
Timing can be programed on the RPM plot and can also be taken out over time...
I'll post as soon as I hear time/price...
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dubious
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posted May 10, 2008 09:23 PM
hmmm.... I'm quite interested....$$$$
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ryan schnitz
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posted May 19, 2008 06:48 AM
Edited By: ryan schnitz on 19 May 2008 07:50
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=3965&z=5
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Sticks_n_Stones
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posted May 19, 2008 07:20 AM
Damn kcadby, your sales pitch makes ME want one and I dont drag race or have a power adder! Not a bad price either - $581.50
Great, now I have yet another thing to add to my list of not needed but cool things to buy...
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kcadby
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posted May 19, 2008 07:58 AM
Edited By: kcadby on 19 May 2008 09:10
MPS will be getting the first SB6 units shipped from MSD at the end of May
We recieved the first production units from MSD for both bikes to make sure everything works...it does
kingtramp has the ZX14 unit on his bike and Todd at MPSracing.com has the first Busa unit on his bike...
http://www.mpsracing.com/
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lietoome
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posted May 19, 2008 08:40 AM
Edited By: lietoome on 19 May 2008 09:41
kc, forgive my ignorance, but what year is that blue bike? ZRX 1200? Damn, I gotta have one of those!
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kcadby
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posted May 19, 2008 11:08 AM
Thank You lietoome...It's a 2003 ZRX 1200R...
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