lietoome
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posted May 02, 2008 09:56 PM
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Theres guys that would be perfectly fine starting on a turbo bike and guys that after 3 yrs should not be on a bike at all.
Amen.
I sold my 12 to a guy that owned a gixxer1k---he wrecked it twice before totally the 12 on his 3rd attempt. I regret selling the bike to 'that guy'. I saw him around, he always had it wound up in first gear, zipping in/out of traffic. I knew I sold it to the wrong person the first time I saw him actually ride it. He talked a good game, I would've kept it if I'd known he was just going to wad it up and help the insurance companies with their 'statistics'.
With that said, there are riding schools where you can use their smaller bikes which may help you quite a bit. I also rode my bike down to the stadium parking lot and practiced a lot before I attempted to travel on the roads with cagers. Cages will definitely throw a curve at you daily. I still stop by the stadium and watch the MSF classes go thru the diferent drills, and I practice the drills when they are not there.
I read "twist of the Wrist 1 & 2" cover to cover several times. Its amazing what is involved with riding a motorcycle. The books are more inclined to racing, but the information is equally usable for everyday street riding. It really opened my eyes to some of the thought that needs to take place when riding a motorcycle.
Anyone else have any thoughts on recommended reading?
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The exceptions to the rule fall under decision making NOT actual riding.
decision making is riding, riding is decision making. You can't do one without the other. Either way, a poor decision will screw you.
As far as starting out on a blackbird? WTF? I gotta disagree with that one. Yeah it will fit, but even the birds are around 160 hp?
BTW, Alxis, when you drop it, just shake it off, pick it up, and get over it before you ride the bike home. Nothing you can do about it, don't dwell on it until you get home and inspect the damage...you'll be thinking about the cost of those plastics instead of the ride home...dangerous. Ask me how I know 
  
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zx14mike
Zone Head
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posted May 02, 2008 10:12 PM
I agree with Bently and lietoome on this one it REALLY depends on the person, if your a mature person with good throtle control control, common sense and good coordination you could do fine on a ZX 14 for a first bike...........its not that uncontrolable.................That said I also have to agree that it would be safer for most people and most people would generally develop better riding skills faster on a smaller bike.
But for someone 300 pounds who feels they are sensible and mature, always stay within their abilities and are a quick study and prety skilled with driving cars and other vehicles.............the 14 could be a fine first choice.
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zx14mike
Zone Head
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posted May 02, 2008 10:19 PM
Bottom line `you gotta know yourself and be honest...........if you are a quick study that that is skilled and comfortable driving high performance cars and/or dirt bikes and always ride within your abilities then go for it............if your more reckless and arent a natural at hopping on or in a high perf vehicles and being in control........you should start on a smaller bike and develop your riding skills till they are second nature then move up to a bigger bike.
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ninja14
Pro
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posted May 02, 2008 10:19 PM
http://www.oldguy.us/easy-riding/bg-first-bike.php
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2006 Turbo ZX-14.
2005 V-max 20th Anniv.
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lietoome
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posted May 02, 2008 11:53 PM
good read.
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Bently
Needs a life
2012 14r In Blue and no Mods!
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posted May 03, 2008 03:32 AM
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I have an Idea buy an 08 Busa and be a good boy and leave it in c mode for 1 yr, then B mode for another yr, then let it rip in A mode! Just JK get the bike you think you can be responsable on. you can get hurt on anything.
I actually like your suggestion. When he drops it, I'll feel better that he's dropping a hayabugly instead of a 14. :-D
And you know he'll drop it. If there's anyone on here that has never dropped a bike, raise your hand.
I've never just dropped a bike. I went down at a track day but never dropped one on the street or garage or driveway so guess my hands up.
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fury
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posted May 03, 2008 03:57 AM
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I have an Idea buy an 08 Busa and be a good boy and leave it in c mode for 1 yr, then B mode for another yr, then let it rip in A mode! Just JK get the bike you think you can be responsable on. you can get hurt on anything.
I actually like your suggestion. When he drops it, I'll feel better that he's dropping a hayabugly instead of a 14. :-D
And you know he'll drop it. If there's anyone on here that has never dropped a bike, raise your hand.
I've never just dropped a bike. I went down at a track day but never dropped one on the street or garage or driveway so guess my hands up.
Man does this remind me of a storey...
It was a sunny Saturday morning.
I wanted to clean my already clean 650 Susuki Tempter.
It would do 160kms down a hill with the wind at my back.
After I was complete I had noticed my dull tires.
1st mistake.
I went into the garage and got some Armour All.
2nd mistake.
Then I decided I would go for a ride.
3rd mistake (now I am out)
I pulled out of the drive way and lay'd her down...
Just like butter...
I did not get hurt.
Bike suffered a scratch.
Never again.
Note: that happened when I was 16 yrs old.
I am well outa my teens now...
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NinjaNick
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'08 ZX14 (Blue)
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posted May 03, 2008 07:13 AM
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I've never just dropped a bike. Never dropped one on the street, garage or driveway so guess my hands up.
+1 I hold on to my bike and don't let it fall over when I'm sitting still or putting it on the stands in my garage. Paying attention to what you're doing makes everything a little bit easier.
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lietoome
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posted May 03, 2008 02:42 PM
i waited til i got 200 miles on the 14, wasn't paying attention, thought I had the stand all the way down, hopped off, 3 steps later...the tip sensor works just fine.
Dropped the 12 when I was lowering it...instead of 2 inches---i dropped it 32 inches. Shit happens, fix it an move on.
haven't gone down at speed yet, not looking forward to it either.
*knock on wood.
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lietoome
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posted May 03, 2008 02:45 PM
smokin' you've probablly met my grandfather. He and grandma(dispatch) retired from Montabello PD.
Thread jack!!!!!!!
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LXS
Parking Attendant
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posted May 03, 2008 03:11 PM
This is pretty effin SWEET! You guys are AWESOME!!! Being a newbie here, I feel pretty welcomed here, and have lots of guys looking out for me! That's a big thumbs up to everyone! I feel that I'm mature and I've learned from the mistakes I've made in my teens and early 20s. I feel that I'm a lot more careful now, and feel confident that I can learn off of the 14. I do plan on taking that MSF course, and really look forward to it. As for gear, I going to be getting the leather Icon Automag Hero jacket, gloves, and the blue carbon fiber Icon Claymore Airframe helmet. What do you guys think?
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NinjaNick
Needs a job
'08 ZX14 (Blue)
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posted May 03, 2008 07:08 PM
Oh yeah, also, please have someone show you how to loosen a nut to change your oil, and adjust your chain and take your wheels off. Most simplest things that everyone should know how to do.
Be safe and keep learning!
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