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posted March 19, 2008 06:30 PM
Silver - I always avoid the discussion of money - even at home! I have done just about anything you can think of to make it go faster without touching the engine to date..... ceramic bearings, race wheels, brock alian, power commander, lowered and strapped, mr 8 or 10 when I want to go as fast as possible, air cleaners? what air cleaner - netting out of the ram air, hub, gps speed and data acquisition, non o-ring chain, corbin custom thin seat, 18/38 sprockets, etc.... tires I use battleax with combination street/race compound - stock wheelbase Kevin
  
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posted March 19, 2008 08:15 PM
sounds pretty serious kspz, hope to hear about the results soon.
Y2K, what all configurations are you going to be testing? i know stock cam, and muzzy cam+1530kit.
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posted March 22, 2008 10:14 PM
Just curious, how does horsepower gains correlate to an increase in air flow? For example a 5% increase in cfm. I'm also assuming that each is mapped as efficiently as possible
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posted March 23, 2008 04:02 AM
Silver08, I'm not sure of all the combos we are actually going to test yet. It kinda depends on how each test pans out.
Air flow to hp ratio? Well there is a ratio put out by Supeflow but that ratio assumes full trapping and optimum configuration.
The bottom line in making more power is trapped volume. Trapped volume depends heavily on valve seat timings as well as lift and port speed.
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posted March 31, 2008 01:54 PM
Just curious, did you start to test the head porting with aftermarket cams yet?
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posted March 31, 2008 04:51 PM
The cams havent arrived yet. There 3 weeks late. 
Soon I hope.
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kspz3
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posted April 01, 2008 01:47 PM
Well, I dropped mine off in Dayton with Brian at Quantum Motorsports..... so let the fun begin.
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posted April 04, 2008 11:33 AM
I talked to the tech department at Muzzy because I'am going to build another motor. He said to get the 1418cc kit. It has bigger pistons, degree your stock cams for higher RPM & redo your head & you will see 210HP to 215HP at rear tire. (Also with PClll, exhaust, etc...)I think that would be a perfect motor for street/strip.
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Silver08
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posted April 06, 2008 07:21 PM
Y2K, have the cams come in yet?
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zx14mike
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posted April 06, 2008 07:34 PM
Y2k, are you testing the Muzzy cam with stock displacement?
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posted April 08, 2008 04:58 PM
I'll call Quantum tomorrow and see if the cams arrived...
Mike, Yes I want to test with a stock displacement bike.
We just finished up the development of the ZRX-1200 head this week. This thing is gonna make some power!!!
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posted April 08, 2008 06:17 PM
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I'll call Quantum tomorrow and see if the cams arrived...
Mike, Yes I want to test with a stock displacement bike.
We just finished up the development of the ZRX-1200 head this week. This thing is gonna make some power!!!
WHAT !!! The zrx is long dead !!!! I sold mine 2 years ago .... WE NEED A ZX14 HEAD !!!
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posted April 08, 2008 06:26 PM
Y2K, would head porting and bigger cams effect the speed in the gears, specifically would the increased topend power and overrev translate into more speed in gears and allow the use of more gearing but still allow the bike to cross the quarter mile line in 4th gear rather than 5th?
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posted April 10, 2008 03:18 AM
Smokin, we have had the zx14 stage 1 head done for 2 months. !!! I figured you were following the thread on it..... We have done at least a dozen so far. Now we are about to test the stage 1 head with some web cams.
Mike, I dont know the gearing on the ZRX to comment on it. But this head is going to be a big improvement over a stock head. I'm looking forward to seeing the dyno graph.
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posted April 10, 2008 06:11 AM
Smokin is just yanking you chain. Us ZRX guys need power too. LOL
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posted April 10, 2008 07:28 PM
Y2K, i got a ZX 14 not the ZRX.
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posted April 11, 2008 04:08 AM
Mike, you would be in fresh teritory and blazing a trail..... the best gearing with our head and cam combo hasnt been worked out yet. So I cant say for sure.
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posted April 28, 2008 04:13 AM
Smokin, are you ready for porting and cams yet? Maybe a 1530 bump? 
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Silver08
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posted April 28, 2008 06:20 PM
dont tease us like that Y2K, how did the stage 1 plus cams perform?
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posted April 28, 2008 07:50 PM
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Smokin, are you ready for porting and cams yet? Maybe a 1530 bump?
I wish ......My Money is just to tight right now ...
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posted April 29, 2008 03:28 AM
Silver, were still waiting for the cams from Web. Its been 2 months.
I dont know why its taking so long.
As soon as we get them and test them I promise I'll put up some info right away.
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posted April 29, 2008 06:35 AM
i have one of these heads that im selling... my bottom end is gone but luckily i still have my head----no core 1500.00
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posted May 11, 2008 03:25 AM
Is that with stock cams? I may have a buyer?
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posted June 29, 2008 06:00 AM
I haven't heard anything about the stock displacement/aftermarket cam development here or on other boards for some time. I don't think Brian was suscessful in getting any more power out of the street stock displacement combo he was working with despite all his efforts. It appears that the stock cams are as much as the engine needs at the stock displacement in a street motor.
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posted June 29, 2008 06:36 AM
Edited By: larryc on 29 Jun 2008 07:37
What did the ported head end up gaining in terms ET and/ or MPH, for anyone that has run one with a stock engine configuration/
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