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posted January 02, 2008 01:09 PM
Cycle World declares 'busa "THE KING"
Cycle World Magazine- February 2008 Edition, page 33
"Hayabusa by the Numbers: KING of the Dyno/QUICKEST in the Quarter"
CW explains they were only allowed two passes at the 'busa intro. But now they have received a Suzuki test unit and not only is it KING/QUICKEST but it has 1.2 more ponies than the ZX14.
The significance of this is whether it is true or false...... SUZUKI has the edge in the sales department with the aid of these top magazines giving praise. Suzuki always stays on top regarding performance on the sales floor.
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posted January 02, 2008 01:31 PM
I ride a motorcycle, not a sales figure..
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posted January 02, 2008 01:39 PM
WOW - A 1.2 HP advantage!
That must be good for a 1.2 inch win in the quarter (assuming equal riders - like THAT's gonna happen)! 
It seems like the biggest argument from the Busa crowd (using distorted logic, but repeated over and over and over) is that it outsells the 14 by 2:1 or 3:1, therefore, it is the best bike.
Using that logic, the Ducati 1098 must be the biggest piece of junk on the planet, 'cause the Gixxers must outsell it by 100:1. 
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posted January 02, 2008 01:45 PM
quote:
WOW - A 1.2 HP advantage!
That must be good for a 1.2 inch win in the quarter (assuming equal riders - like THAT's gonna happen)!
It seems like the biggest argument from the Busa crowd (using distorted logic, but repeated over and over and over) is that it outsells the 14 by 2:1 or 3:1, therefore, it is the best bike.
Using that logic, the Ducati 1098 must be the biggest piece of junk on the planet, 'cause the Gixxers must outsell it by 100:1.
+1 and butt f@%$#%$# ugly...
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posted January 02, 2008 02:26 PM
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I ride a motorcycle, not a sales figure..
+1 me too. I like having something other than a "me 2" bike that everyone else has. But just another example of the media putting Suzuki on top by declaring the 'busa as King.
I'd have thought they'd run an unbiased precise shootout with several pro's and non pro's running/comparing each bike, then taking each to the same dyno same day, and more testing, before claiming either the 'busa KING or QUICKEST bike.
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posted January 02, 2008 02:41 PM
Well it really doesn't matter to me what they have to say about it .. What i know is it going to take one hell of a lite weight rider with skills like mine to get to the finsh line before me ...
But one good thing the story will do is every busa owner will now want to race me because the Magazine said the Busa is king !!! It has to be true doesn't it ???
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posted January 02, 2008 03:23 PM
 Edited By: stevewfl on 2 Jan 2008 15:23
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Well it really doesn't matter to me what they have to say about it ..
the article in table of contents says:
"Hayabusa by the Numbers"
"Smokin' at the Strip"
You must've been there the same time as them too? :P
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posted January 02, 2008 03:32 PM
Hopefully in a few weeks Brock will have an answer, which I will always take his word over a mag.
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posted January 02, 2008 03:37 PM
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Hopefully in a few weeks Brock will have an answer, which I will always take his word over a mag.
True dat, but Brock doesn't reach quite the population as the mainstream mags
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posted January 02, 2008 03:51 PM
What do you think the margin for error is on that dyno that they tested on (1.2hp, that's a joke)? What minor mods could one do to produce an additional 1.2 hp? Miss one meal maybe to make up for all that excess hp?? I don't care what the mag says, I wouldn't drive a bike that looks like that. I also don't want a machine that the masses like and buy.
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posted January 02, 2008 04:53 PM
I guess Suzuki motors gave extra $$$ to Cycle World Magazine!!! 
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posted January 02, 2008 05:00 PM
"CW explains they were only allowed two passes at the 'busa intro. But now they have received a Suzuki test unit and not only is it KING/QUICKEST but it has 1.2 more ponies than the ZX14."
Does it specify what year ZX14 they tested? And were they tested the same day at the same track and dyno? Inquiring minds want to know..................... 
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posted January 02, 2008 05:43 PM
Edited By: KAWABUNGA on 2 Jan 2008 17:45
Magazine's always show preference to who advertises the most in their rags. Say good things so we can sell bikes and we will advertise more in your mag. Lotsa BS and politics. It all boils down to who the pilot is and how willing they are to twist the throttle and ride it like they stole it. A good rider on a lesser machine will always out perform the bad rider that's scared of what they have and doesn't know how to use it. I have stomped many a busa ass with an 02 zrx1200 with a stock motor at the strip. The first 60 feet means everything. Catch me if you can!!!!! Talks cheap...let's race!!!!!!!!!!
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posted January 02, 2008 05:49 PM
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good, i hope the 14 never has the hype that the busa has. anytime you talk to a nonrider about bikes, they all know the name busa. zx-what?
i like the busa, i've ridden them, but the 14 is a better bike in my opinion. the busa fan club will never entertain that notion.
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posted January 02, 2008 05:52 PM
ya, the busa crowd is raving over cycle world magazine throwing the king title at their bikes.
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posted January 02, 2008 06:01 PM
My C14 eats Busa's and ZX14's all day long -- so there!  :P
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posted January 02, 2008 06:24 PM
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My C14 eats Busa's and ZX14's all day long -- so there! :P
They said KING
"ONE KING"
KING OF EVERYTHING :P
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posted January 02, 2008 06:38 PM
Does it specify what year ZX14 they tested? And were they tested the same day at the same track and dyno? Inquiring minds want to know.....................
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Yeah, I was wondering about that too. They did not say which year ZX-14 they tested.... Here is the direct quote.
"....nearly a dozen more ponies than its predecessor--and 1.2 more than the last Kawasaki ZX-14 we tested."
They know how to sell mags.....
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posted January 02, 2008 06:47 PM
Busa is still an ugly POS...
Like was said earlier, magazines will declare whatever advertises more as the best... Just look at every magazine out there and you will see Suz is advertising the Busa hard in them all. My opinion is because they are afraid of the 14 and they have to try and keep sales up.
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posted January 02, 2008 07:05 PM
If motorcyclist comes out and says the 08 14 has 1.2 hp more then the Busa will you guys say the same thing? cause it could happen.
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posted January 02, 2008 07:13 PM
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Well it really doesn't matter to me what they have to say about it .. What i know is it going to take one hell of a lite weight rider with skills like mine to get to the finsh line before me ...
But one good thing the story will do is every busa owner will now want to race me because the Magazine said the Busa is king !!! It has to be true doesn't it ???
im still looking for an 08 to show up at Kennedale one of these Sunday's, this Sunday will be in the low 70's, maybe 1 will show?
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posted January 02, 2008 07:19 PM
ya'll worry to much...fuck it....
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posted January 02, 2008 07:27 PM
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im still looking for an 08 to show up at Kennedale one of these Sunday's, this Sunday will be in the low 70's, maybe 1 will show?
wee
Coincidentally, I'm still looking for my parts to show up! 
Got a package Monday.
Got another one due tomorrow.
The one I reallllllllllly need won't be here until next Monday.
The one we talked about hasn't been ordered yet - haven't made up my mind yet............
How's the weather lookin' in March? LOL!
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posted January 02, 2008 07:46 PM
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If motorcyclist comes out and says the 08 14 has 1.2 hp more then the Busa will you guys say the same thing? cause it could happen.
Not me i'll let my bike do the talking ...
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posted January 02, 2008 07:56 PM
I will be running a bone stock 08 Busa against my bone stock 07 zx14 this Saturday. I weigh 205 and he goes about 195. Probably a little more experience at the strip goes my way, but we will see. Hopefully the weather holds out and there will be no cheating. Bently, can you post a pic of the Busa axle position? That way I can tell if he has dropped a tooth.
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