reward69
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posted December 24, 2007 12:34 PM
08 and PC'D
Got to ride today with the 08 and the powercommander installed. VERY suprised at the difference. Pulls noticably harder through out the rpm range. The lower end was also suprisingly harder hitting. I didnt notice too much difference in my busa after the install, but this thing really woke the 14 up. The top end pull was probably the most noticable improvement. Any way I know there are a couple of you guys that were interested in hearing from someone with an o 08 and pcIII. BTW, I have a Brocks smeg and the map installed was the full akropovic from dynojets web site. Im interested to see how if any Brocks map betters this one.
  
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reward69
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posted December 24, 2007 12:40 PM
Also BTW I installed the noise reduction plug from brocks, from 0 to 5K it makes a noticable difference in the sound volume, above that it still rocks. For around town riding and just general cruising I really like it. Brocks has as decible scale with and without it on his web site, but knowing that dcbs are not linear it really does give it a good sound with out any draw backs. I would reccomend to any one that has pondered the idea. Just off idle say 2500 and below is where it gives it a little gargled sound but above that it really sounds good.
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posted December 24, 2007 02:56 PM
Thanks for the report! 
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redsnake2
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posted December 24, 2007 03:20 PM
dang where are you that you can ride during this time of year
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lucky14
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posted December 24, 2007 04:26 PM
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dang where are you that you can ride during this time of year
reward69's profile says NC
Mine says TX
I hate to break it to you but...............................
I just got back from a ride!  55 deg. here and sunny
Don't hate - just relate!
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busajack5
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posted December 24, 2007 04:43 PM
Thanks rewar,been waiting for that.Any poping?? Jack
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reward69
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posted December 24, 2007 06:27 PM
Yeah, still getting a little poping, but not as bad as without. I live in Western NC, it was about 54F today so it wasnt too bad. Actually the wife and I went for a late lunch, she likes to ride.
Like others Im still undecided and awaiting the info from brock on the flie delima. I've never ridden a pre 08 so I dont know how bad the low rpms were. This bike really wakes up with just a PC so I'll just sit back and wait for the info to pour in.
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xzonefour
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posted December 24, 2007 06:28 PM
Actually, here in Tampa, FL it's still above 60 deg and I just got back from a ride on the ZX myself (it's 9:22pm). Anyway, I have a few questions for you reward69: Did you remove the flies? Are you running a stock air filter or upgraded one? If you have not done either of those things do you plan on doing it? Thanks. Merry Christmas to everyone.
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duncan
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posted December 24, 2007 07:18 PM
reward what part of western n.c. do you live? i'm in asheville.
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reward69
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posted December 24, 2007 07:20 PM
No, other than the pipe, PCIII, 16t front, its stock. I always just run the stock filter and change them often. I'm undecided about the flies at this point. Personally I think I'll probably take them out, but Im waiting to see what brock or someone finds out after some dyno time. Even if I do I may wait till the warranty is over before I do. I would hate for something to go wrong and have the dealership blame it on the flies being removed?? Personally I dont like them being in, even though its pretty strong on the bottom you still can feel them. After coming from a busa I like that low end raw power. I wouldnt say that its weaker than my busa down low, maybe a tick, but I hate having something with this much potential and not let her eat!!!!
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fastestbusaaround
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posted December 24, 2007 07:20 PM
The low end on the pre-08 (pre flies out) was pathetic...the 08 rocks, but when you pull the flies, watch out. No matter what you think, there's still a big difference between flies in and out on the 08. Already pulled mine on day one...the difference is BIG, not nearly as much as on the 06-07, but still BIG. Pulls a lot harder with them out...once you pull 'em, you won't put 'em back!
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posted December 24, 2007 07:26 PM
once you pull 'em, you won't put 'em back!
truer words never spoken
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posted December 25, 2007 06:56 AM
I do not lie.:P
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xzonefour
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posted December 25, 2007 06:37 PM
quote:
The low end on the pre-08 (pre flies out) was pathetic...the 08 rocks, but when you pull the flies, watch out. No matter what you think, there's still a big difference between flies in and out on the 08. Already pulled mine on day one...the difference is BIG, not nearly as much as on the 06-07, but still BIG. Pulls a lot harder with them out...once you pull 'em, you won't put 'em back!
Am I correct to assume that I'll need to wait for a PC3 and a map to pull the flies or can you pull them stock? I'm waiting to see what's up with the M14 before I buy an exhaust. Many have stated that due to head changes etc. that 06-07 exhausts might be leaving some power "on the table" so to speak and therefore I'm waiting to see if an exhaust optimized for the 08 is necessary. Thanks for all the great info.
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posted December 25, 2007 07:18 PM
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Got to ride today with the 08 and the powercommander installed. VERY suprised at the difference. Pulls noticably harder through out the rpm range. The lower end was also suprisingly harder hitting. I didnt notice too much difference in my busa after the install, but this thing really woke the 14 up. The top end pull was probably the most noticable improvement. Any way I know there are a couple of you guys that were interested in hearing from someone with an o 08 and pcIII. BTW, I have a Brocks smeg and the map installed was the full akropovic from dynojets web site. Im interested to see how if any Brocks map betters this one.
awesome!
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posted December 25, 2007 07:40 PM
the changes to the head are very minimal according to Y2KZX12R, only a slighter larger fresh air port
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MJ
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posted December 27, 2007 12:53 AM
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The low end on the pre-08 (pre flies out) was pathetic...the 08 rocks, but when you pull the flies, watch out. No matter what you think, there's still a big difference between flies in and out on the 08. Already pulled mine on day one...the difference is BIG, not nearly as much as on the 06-07, but still BIG. Pulls a lot harder with them out...once you pull 'em, you won't put 'em back!
The low end on the pre 08 14's was beyond pathetic. I haven't rode an 08..but from what I hear its ALOT better down low. Removing the flies and adding a pc and tre to my 07 made a RIDICULOUS difference in low end power. Mucho mucho more  It went from moped power down low to tire shredding, wheelie pulling power. Definately stronger down low than a stock busa 
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posted December 27, 2007 05:20 AM
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dang where are you that you can ride during this time of year
reward69's profile says NC
Mine says TX
I hate to break it to you but...............................
I just got back from a ride! 55 deg. here and sunny
Don't hate - just relate!
Phx here...Sunny and 58 yesterday...Little chilly in the morning thou..32 F
It is our reward for 118 last summer
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posted December 27, 2007 07:30 AM
+1
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