bigbuk30
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posted December 20, 2007 04:10 PM
1417 how much nos
hey guys on a fully built 1417 what is the safest biggest shot i can go with, dont want to tear it up to quick, i was thinking 40 or 50 give me ur suggestions thanks
  
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bigbuk30
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posted December 20, 2007 04:59 PM
somebody anybody
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Silver08
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posted December 20, 2007 08:09 PM
it will hold 50 easy
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Silver08
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posted December 20, 2007 08:10 PM
you have any numbers on your 1417???
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ninja12
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posted December 20, 2007 09:05 PM
Why not a 100 shot?
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ZX12R4PLAY
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Dirty South
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posted December 20, 2007 10:03 PM
Who built the motor for your 1417?
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bigbuk30
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posted December 21, 2007 02:25 PM
it goes out next wed. SPAZ BUILT man u cant beat price whole nine yards even transmission cut, only thing i didnt do was lighten and bal. crank, good good package deal
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BlackMagic14
Needs a job
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posted December 21, 2007 04:27 PM
How much? SPaz does great head work too, hope he is putting a second fan on it or THAT BITCH WILL RUN HOT!!!!!!... Wouldnt go much bigger then 60 hp on stock bottom end and rods
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thutch26
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thutch26
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posted December 22, 2007 03:46 AM
i have a 1417 being built right now by Chip Hunter. and i plan on spraying 75-100hp. What pistons are you using? I was told that the ones in the muzzy kit will only hold up to 50hp. He took my balancers off my crank and had it balanced, Coby ported head and Coby cut Tranny. from what i understand he had Coby design a set of pistons that will hold alot more than 50hp and wiseco made them. "I think?"
Does anyone have any pics of a second fan installed? i need some ideas! send to thutch26@charter.net
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JamesE
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posted December 22, 2007 04:17 PM
I was wondering $$ also. Rudy at Quicktime is at $3800, pistons+cams+headwork (in-house). The Busa boys rave about Spaz, real interested to see what he does with the 14.
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Silver08
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posted December 22, 2007 08:35 PM
i want to see a built 08 14 to see if they do any better than the 06-07
what kind of $$$ for Coby?? they are pretty close to me
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thutch26
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posted December 23, 2007 01:08 AM
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i want to see a built 08 14 to see if they do any better than the 06-07
what kind of $$$ for Coby?? they are pretty close to me
the only real diff from the 08 than the previous models is the bigger ports in the head, and the injectors are a lil diff. a full head job would do more then what the 08 head does, and as far as the injectors go, I'm not sure of the diff. but i bet it's minor. so as far as a comparison between the 2 BUILT motors. there would probably be less of a difference then, the difference between the 2 being stock!
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Silver08
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posted December 23, 2007 02:36 PM
definately agree, the farther from stock you take the 08 or 06-07, the less difference.
KWS told me they have only done +3mm 1450 motors and that they are reliable and do not run too hot for the street.
the only numbers i have heard of for a 1417 was 210 on MRX01. what kind of numbers is everyone else getting with 1417's or 1450's???
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BlackMagic14
Needs a job
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posted December 23, 2007 03:32 PM
210 on a 1417 is a stingy dyno or a bad build.
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bigbuk30
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posted December 23, 2007 04:03 PM
i was told low low 220s on mrxo1 guess we will see in jan. also taiked to kws they told me same about 3 mill but wall in between are very very small, does have heating problems cant spray as much because of wall being so thinand only 4-5 hp more also have to upgrade battery to a oddessy or run two batt.
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bishopzx12
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posted December 23, 2007 04:07 PM
Can you guys post some contact info for quick timeand SPAZ built
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Silver08
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posted December 23, 2007 07:32 PM
bigbulk, who is building your 1417??
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jarhead
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posted December 24, 2007 06:55 PM
I would talk to your builder, he will know what is safe. Be sure to tell him/her to make sure to stay safe with the motor. They often times build so many motors for guys with deep pockets and do not care how long the motor lasts. One thing I would really address is the spring pressure, I have heard of a few 14's spitting shims when pushed, this is an easy fix when you already have the motor apart.
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